Off Topic The threat from the Far-Right (or left)

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Based on 2025/2026 Bloomberg Economics research, Brexit has caused a significant, persistent, and worsening drag on the UK economy, costing an estimated £100 billion to over £200 billion annually.
Only Reeves trying to save her job reporting lies to far leftie news. take a look above what Starmers tyring to do to us
 
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We now have the ability to set our own National laws without being subject to EU directives.

We can now negotiate our own trade deals globally (see India, China, Canada, Australia)

We now have our own policies in high growth areas like AI and clinical trials.

We can now set our own rates like sanitary products (zero rate VAT) and applying VAT on private school fees. These were previously restricted by the EU.


Plenty of positives for Brexit if we had people that believed in it doing the negotiating.

Anyway, the vote was 10 year ago. Probably time to drop the obsession, wipe the tears away and move on.
 
He warns the EU will ensure “the UK is seen to have gained as little positive as possible from leaving the EU” to “discourage any other member state from following Britain’s example


Lord Lilley
said: “Over our 28-year membership British goods exports to the EU grew less than 1% a year, while our exports to countries we had no trade deal with grew four times as much – by 87%. In a triumph of hope over experience, the Government is pursuing a ‘reset’, making dynamic alignment with EU rules the norm across our economy.
“This unilateral submission won’t help our exporters (who already conform to EU rules) but will burden the 92% of British firms that don’t export to the EU with the overregulation which has crippled EU growth. And the EU expect us to pay them for this.”
He was alarmed when Rachel Reeves declared in her Mais lecture the UK should “align with EU regulation” when it is in the national interest – and that while there may be areas where Britain should set its own regulations this “should be the exception, not the norm”.

 
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The Policy Exchange report argues the EU will be the principal beneficiary of an agri-food deal because the bloc exports nearly four times the amount the UK exports back.
It warns that rejoining the Erasmus+ scheme, which allows students to study in a different country, will cost £570million – far more than the Turing scheme (£110million) which it says enabled young Brits to spend time in a greater range of nations.


Lord Lilley’s report claims the veterinary (SPS) deal will burden British food producers with 76 new regulations and directives at an estimated cost of £1billion. It expects merging the UK and EU emissions trading schemes will cost British Industry £1.1 billion a year.
Lord Lilley argues that “such an astonishingly bad deal as the proposed reset is the result of a series of mistakes” – including ministers believing that a “friendly, Europhile government will be offered a better deal”.


A Government spokesperson said: “The reality is that red tape at the border has added billions in costs, fuelling inflation and choking growth. No one wants to see food rotting at the border; it’s a massive waste that takes money straight out of the pockets of British families and businesses.
“Our SPS deal will add up to £5.1billion a year into the economy and slash red tape that drives up supermarket prices. This is about making Brexit work for the British people.”
 
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10 years since the murder of this mother of two

‘We are far more united and have far more in common than that which divides us’ …..
Makes me think of us lot on a match day

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We are far more united and have far more in common than that which divides us
our thoughts and prayers also go out to his family a lovely man who did everything he could for his community

Conservative MP Sir David Amess was murdered on October 15, 2021. He was fatally stabbed multiple times while meeting with constituents at a surgery held at Belfairs Methodist Church Hall in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex. [1, 2]
His assailant, Ali Harbi Ali, was an Islamic State sympathizer who plotted the attack and tricked his way into the meeting pretending to be a constituent. Ali was subsequently convicted of murder and acts of terrorism in April 2022 and handed a whole-life sentence
 
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Starmer thinks it’s more important to pay for people’s 3rd, 4th and 5th children than it is to adequately defend the nation.

That’s lovely and everything but it doesn’t change the fact that Two Tier is more unpopular than everyone who has gone before him.
If Farage hasn’t taken Russian money in attempting to break up Europe perhaps Putin wouldn’t have been so emboldened so we now have to spend money we hicg could be way better spent.

Some patriot
 

Heseltine: It’s time to reverse Johnson and Farage’s Brexit crime.​

13/6/2026

"Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage should “hang their heads in shame” for the damage they caused to Britain by leading the campaign that saw it leave the EU, Michael Heseltine has said.

The former Conservative deputy prime minister said that 10 years on from the EU referendum the “bankruptcy” of their claims that Brexit would bring huge benefits to the UK had been exposed and led voters to believe that it should be reversed.

The British public had been “lied” to in a “heinous crime”, Lord Heseltine, who served under John Major and Margaret Thatcher’s governments, writes for The Independent after it launched its Europe – The Way Back campaign.

Brexit was a “self-imposed disaster” and it is time for Britain to “reclaim our traditional role as a major European nation” and rejoin the EU."
Sensible and decent Tory. People need to listen
 
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And the animal that committed that heinous act in Belfast entered the UK because of Brexit. Refused asylum in an EU country, jumped on a plane to Dublin which is still in EU, then travelled through to Belfast on a bus. We are no longer part of the EU database for failed asylum seekers because of Brexit, we are also no longer part of EU criminal records database because of Brexit. Now we have to go to 27 separate countries to ask for this information and I highly doubt civil servants are going to those lengths for hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers. Brexit, securing our borders since 2016
Spot on mate.

Made it difficult to trade with 500m people but at least it stopped immigration…oh hold on.

And people think Farage is the answer. :-) he is if you believe the nonsensical rubbish funded and pumped out by his non dom billionaires 24/7. Mind as you see from one poster on here in particular they know their audience. Some may say the gullible or stupid.
 
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Sensible and decent Tory. People need to listen
These claims that we couldn't have our own laws, border controls or trade agreements in the EU are 95% nonsense ...

... people clutch at straws about fish quotas, etc because they don't know how they work of who owns them.

Brexit was supposed to address these issues but fishing is still owned and controlled, primarily, by people on the Sunday Times Rich List, foreign owners and clandestine companies.
 
These claims that we couldn't have our own laws, border controls or trade agreements in the EU are 95% nonsense ...

... people clutch at straws about fish quotas, etc because they don't know how they work of who owns them.

Brexit was supposed to address these issues but fishing is still owned and controlled, primarily, by people on the Sunday Times Rich List, foreign owners and clandestine companies.
All of the above were just a deflection when asked why they favoured Brexit. How many people are fishermen or run businesses that import/export? Very few. The sole reason 99.9% of people voted for Brexit was they thought it would stop immigration but they just daren't admit it for fear of being called "racist"
 
These claims that we couldn't have our own laws, border controls or trade agreements in the EU are 95% nonsense ...

... people clutch at straws about fish quotas, etc because they don't know how they work of who owns them.

Brexit was supposed to address these issues but fishing is still owned and controlled, primarily, by people on the Sunday Times Rich List, foreign owners and clandestine companies.

But the extra £350m per week for the NHS, ie 50 new hospitals etc