Off Topic The threat from the Far-Right (or left)

[Northumberland Rocks]

Ive been a Sunderland supporter before you were an accident waiting to happen, i wouldn't class a person with so much pent up venom that they can't control like you have a supporter, however if this thread annoys you so much, please go and take a chill pill and visit one of the many other threads, where your vitriol is more than welcome amongst like minded people,

SAFC has a team from all parts of the globe with white Muslims, black Christian’s and it’s fantastic to see.

I fully recognise we need robust immigration but not built in the hate filled racism of Farage and his ilk. Farage is the principal cause of the record immigration we have seen over the last decade and Is certainly not the solution.

Chill pill advice from you? You have to laugh.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

Two tier is worse than them. There’s a reason the UK public consistently vote him more unpopular than the PM’s you mentioned.

When Starmer kills 200,000 needlessly or knocks billions off all our pensions you may have a point.

This is a thread on the far right (and far left to keep the complainers happy) so let’s not take it off track. There is a politics thread.

 

[Row 3]

Wasn't the countries that forced the vote again, it was the EU minions in Brussels.

No one in the EU forced those second votes. Parts of various treaties which had been rejected were renegotiated or op-outs achieved then put back to the people again. If you really think the EU has the power to order second referenda, why didn't we have another one after 2016?

 

[Ronsafc]

No one in the EU forced those second votes. Parts of various treaties which had been rejected were renegotiated or op-outs achieved then put back to the people again. If you really think the EU has the power to order second referenda, why didn't we have another one after 2016?

Because the govt of the day said uk didn't need a ref, just a parliamentary vote needed.
The 2016 vote was an entirely different event.

 

[Saf]

pity them Starmer is trying to overturn the result by the back door

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Labour's EU Reset: A Brexit Betrayal Britain Didn't Vote For​

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9 Apr 2026 — Labour's EU Reset defies its 2024 manifesto and isn't backed by trade data. UK exports to the EU are at record highs.
3 different videos explaining how Starmer has been found out trying to get us back in the EU by the backdoor and not referendum a total betrayal

Starmer thinks it’s more important to pay for people’s 3rd, 4th and 5th children than it is to adequately defend the nation.

When Starmer kills 200,000 needlessly or knocks billions off all our pensions you may have a point.

This is a thread on the far right (and far left to keep the complainers happy) so let’s not take it off track. There is a politics thread.

That’s lovely and everything but it doesn’t change the fact that Two Tier is more unpopular than everyone who has gone before him.

 

[Row 3]

Because the govt of the day said uk didn't need a ref, just a parliamentary vote needed.
The 2016 vote was an entirely different event.

So if all the UK needs is a parliamentary vote, how did 'EU minions in Brussels' force other countries to have second votes?

 

[Ronsafc]

So if all the UK needs is a parliamentary vote, how did 'EU minions in Brussels' force other countries to have second votes?

Different countries have different ways of voting for treaties, some, by their laws need referendum for major changes, some like uk parliamentary votes only needed.
The extra votes were passed by bribery or threats of withholding money etc.

 

[Smug in Boots]

The latest bunch of Nigel's puppets have been locked up ...

... he must sit back and laugh at how easy they are to wind up

"Southampton crown court, three men were jailed for violent disorder during the unrest, which followed the murder of student Henry Nowak. Harry Varney, 34, of Southampton, was sentenced to three years imprisonment; Denis Read, 28, of Sarisbury Green, was given a two-year and eight-month prison term; and Benjamin Jones, 23, from Eastleigh, was jailed for two years and two months."

 

[DH4]

The latest bunch of Nigel's puppets have been locked up ...

... he must sit back and laugh at how easy they are to wind up

"Southampton crown court, three men were jailed for violent disorder during the unrest, which followed the murder of student Henry Nowak. Harry Varney, 34, of Southampton, was sentenced to three years imprisonment; Denis Read, 28, of Sarisbury Green, was given a two-year and eight-month prison term; and Benjamin Jones, 23, from Eastleigh, was jailed for two years and two months."

And the animal that committed that heinous act in Belfast entered the UK because of Brexit. Refused asylum in an EU country, jumped on a plane to Dublin which is still in EU, then travelled through to Belfast on a bus. We are no longer part of the EU database for failed asylum seekers because of Brexit, we are also no longer part of EU criminal records database because of Brexit. Now we have to go to 27 separate countries to ask for this information and I highly doubt civil servants are going to those lengths for hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers. Brexit, securing our borders since 2016

 

[Sunders53]

The latest bunch of Nigel's puppets have been locked up ...

... he must sit back and laugh at how easy they are to wind up

"Southampton crown court, three men were jailed for violent disorder during the unrest, which followed the murder of student Henry Nowak. Harry Varney, 34, of Southampton, was sentenced to three years imprisonment; Denis Read, 28, of Sarisbury Green, was given a two-year and eight-month prison term; and Benjamin Jones, 23, from Eastleigh, was jailed for two years and two months."

Perhaps they can ask Trump for a pardon and a share of his slush fund?

 

[Row 3]

Different countries have different ways of voting for treaties, some, by their laws need referendum for major changes, some like uk parliamentary votes only needed.
The extra votes were passed by bribery or threats of withholding money etc.

Can you give me an example of a country being forced to hold a referendum against their will?

 

[Pure River Slut]

Can you give me an example of a country being forced to hold a referendum against their will?

Of course he cant, he doesn’t read papers ot open internet links. His arguments arnet based on evidence just imaginative opinion.

 

[Pure River Slut]

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Backing Yaxley Lemon and UKIP. A south african american trillionaire addict who’s father is a sex offender promoting unrest and women’s safety. His mates are backing Reform and working class lads from Sunderland fighting with them to lose their rights while beating up their mam’s care worker.

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[Pure River Slut]

The latest bunch of Nigel's puppets have been locked up ...

... he must sit back and laugh at how easy they are to wind up

"Southampton crown court, three men were jailed for violent disorder during the unrest, which followed the murder of student Henry Nowak. Harry Varney, 34, of Southampton, was sentenced to three years imprisonment; Denis Read, 28, of Sarisbury Green, was given a two-year and eight-month prison term; and Benjamin Jones, 23, from Eastleigh, was jailed for two years and two months."

While he builds his wealth they lose their lives. Yaxley Lemon was sat in a posh bar hammering sniff with a billionaire sex offender named Musk egging on the lads in Belfast to burn their own streets down. True hero

 

[Iain]

I'm usually a little unsure of the various political views because there are so many different aspects to every situation.

I'm not afraid to say I can see both sides of things and can be swayed by decent arguments that make me question my opinion.

What I find scary are those people who are totally convinced they're right and that the politicians they support are 100% right.

Many people were totally certain Trump was right with everything yet it's clear he's deranged and out of control.

He's actually gone to war with one of the teams competing in the World Cup and is threatening to destroy their entire country ...

... against all odds, he's actually making Putin appear to be a moderate.

And this is someone Farage believes the UK should back without question, this is really getting out of control now.

You've described my views to a tee mate.
I think both main parties are corrupt with many politicians quite happy to look out for themselves rather than their constituents.
I think the huge problem we have with immigration is down to previous governments over the last 20 years, not prepared to put controls in place. Being to weak to upset the do gooders in this country.
Made it more beneficial to be unemployed with 3 kids than it is to have a job.
Then the problem I have is look at the alternatives and I think we'll we are ****ed.
People actually believe the **** that comes out of Farage's mouth. He is basically telling the public what they want to hear, with no way of actually implementing things.
He wants in power for himself and billionaire buddies. He has no interest in trying to implement the policies and promises he has made.
Now is the time Labour and the tories need to actually stand up

 

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[Smug in Boots]

You've described my views to a tee mate.
I think both main parties are corrupt with many politicians quite happy to look out for themselves rather than their constituents.
I think the huge problem we have with immigration is down to previous governments over the last 20 years, not prepared to put controls in place. Being to weak to upset the do gooders in this country.
Made it more beneficial to be unemployed with 3 kids than it is to have a job.
Then the problem I have is look at the alternatives and I think we'll we are ****ed.
People actually believe the **** that comes out of Farage's mouth. He is basically telling the public what they want to hear, with no way of actually implementing things.
He wants in power for himself and billionaire buddies. He has no interest in trying to implement the policies and promises he has made.
Now is the time Labour and the tories need to actually stand up

I’ve been told dozens of times that Farage will stop the boats but, despite asking ‘how’ dozens of times, no one has ever spelled it out. When that’s the only Reform policy people are interested in you’d think they’d know it by heart …

… sadly they don’t have a clue.

Very strange that so many people can just believe it all without question.

 

[Sunders53]

You've described my views to a tee mate.
I think both main parties are corrupt with many politicians quite happy to look out for themselves rather than their constituents.
I think the huge problem we have with immigration is down to previous governments over the last 20 years, not prepared to put controls in place. Being to weak to upset the do gooders in this country.
Made it more beneficial to be unemployed with 3 kids than it is to have a job.
Then the problem I have is look at the alternatives and I think we'll we are ****ed.
People actually believe the **** that comes out of Farage's mouth. He is basically telling the public what they want to hear, with no way of actually implementing things.
He wants in power for himself and billionaire buddies. He has no interest in trying to implement the policies and promises he has made.
Now is the time Labour and the tories the currwntneed to actually stand up

It's axiomatic that the current government inherits the failures of the previous ones.

Thatcher's sale of the family silver eg water companies, has left us with **** in the rivers and seas, selling council houses and not using the proceeds to build others, a shortage of affordable housing.
Blair went to war with Bush.. stupid.. also said everyone should go to university..youth unemployment.

Cameron, Bonko Johnson and of course Liz Truss, gave us Brexit, mass immigration, ( we could end up with the disaster of Fa gash as PM cos of this) , and borrowing to the max, (Covid didn't help). The financial crash of 2008 meant borrowing costs were very low, and instead of using this 'headroom' to improve infrastructure and help promote growth, they went for austerity, which has just about killed UK growth for decades.

Now Labour..with lacklustre, boring charisma free Starmer. He appears to be totally boxed in, has been left painted in a corner. He doesn't gave a clue what to do next. I actually think Reeve is at least keeping the bond markets happy, despite the fact that we have maxed out the countries credit cards.

Any political party that attempts to cut the pensioners 'triple lock', PIP, SEND, UC etc will be voted out. Ie once a benefit is given, the electorate does not like it being CUT. see France.

With war Russia a distinct possibility, the huge cuts to the defence budget over the last 20 years are coming home to roost. Although the MoD spending is dreadful, two aircraft carriers, always needing repair and along with tanks, may be obsolete anyhow. The MoD have some sort of Land-rover that makes the troops inside it ill. So even if they had cash, would it be spent wisely.

So is it tax increases, that is a vote winner!

 

[Smug in Boots]

Another similar murder to the Henry Nowak death. The police arrived within minutes, failed to apprehend the suspects and stood by as the victim bled to death, the emergency services arrived too late. So we can expect Farage pure cold rage and more riots, unless the victim is black or the murderers white of course.

"Emergency services were called to Central Park, in Chelmsford, at about 7pm on Friday, where a 21-year-old victim was found with critical injuries. An Essex Police spokesman said the man died at the scene.

Three suspects, aged 14, 17 and 18, were arrested shortly after and remain in custody for questioning, police said.

The force spokesman said in a statement: "Officers arrived within minutes and found a 21-year-old man with critical injuries. Despite the best efforts of emergency services, he was sadly pronounced dead at the scene."

 

[DH4]

Video on You Tube shows woman being stabbed in Burnley. It will probably get taken down. I will let people make their own minds up as regards the attacker.