Off Topic The politics thread - Starmer/Reeves/Farage etc.

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Ronsafc said:
Depends really, how many have worked their butt's off and are self made compared to family money. I respect any self made person, risk and reward. My brother started off at bottom and built a company employing 30 to 40 people, other people who started at the same time are still doing the same job on about average earnings.
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Is you brother a BILLIONaire? And do the people who work for him have to claim UC to make ends meet? I know a few people who have worked hard and ended up comfortably off, but they are not billionaires, they do not avoid tax by snaffling their money in offshore accounts, they contribute to the economy by spending their wealth in the UK and they pay their workers a living wage. If there are billionaires who share the love, then maybe they deserve it, but most don't. What's the problem with paying tax if you're a billionaire? Why not fund a cancer ward rather than by another yacht?

Example Jim Radcliffe. Lives in Monaco to avoid UK tax. Shifted Ineos headquarters to Switzerland for a while to avoid British tax. Used Swiss-based subsidiaries to bill Ineos UK for consultancy, thereby shifting profit abroad into lower corporate tax regimes. Supermarkets pay minimum wage and employers often don't give employees enough shifts and they have to top up with UC, whilst supermarkets make big profits
 
Cockney Red n White said:
Is you brother a BILLIONaire? And do the people who work for him have to claim UC to make ends meet? I know a few people who have worked hard and ended up comfortably off, but they are not billionaires, they do not avoid tax by snaffling their money in offshore accounts, they contribute to the economy by spending their wealth in the UK and they pay their workers a living wage. If there are billionaires who share the love, then maybe they deserve it, but most don't. What's the problem with paying tax if you're a billionaire? Why not fund a cancer ward rather than by another yacht?

Example Jim Radcliffe. Lives in Monaco to avoid UK tax. Shifted Ineos headquarters to Switzerland for a while to avoid British tax. Used Swiss-based subsidiaries to bill Ineos UK for consultancy, thereby shifting profit abroad into lower corporate tax regimes. Supermarkets pay minimum wage and employers often don't give employees enough shifts and they have to top up with UC, whilst supermarkets make big profits
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I’ve never understood the supermarket situation, why should we be paying their UC when they are making billions.
 
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Cockney Red n White said:
Is you brother a BILLIONaire? And do the people who work for him have to claim UC to make ends meet? I know a few people who have worked hard and ended up comfortably off, but they are not billionaires, they do not avoid tax by snaffling their money in offshore accounts, they contribute to the economy by spending their wealth in the UK and they pay their workers a living wage. If there are billionaires who share the love, then maybe they deserve it, but most don't. What's the problem with paying tax if you're a billionaire? Why not fund a cancer ward rather than by another yacht?

Example Jim Radcliffe. Lives in Monaco to avoid UK tax. Shifted Ineos headquarters to Switzerland for a while to avoid British tax. Used Swiss-based subsidiaries to bill Ineos UK for consultancy, thereby shifting profit abroad into lower corporate tax regimes. Supermarkets pay minimum wage and employers often don't give employees enough shifts and they have to top up with UC, whilst supermarkets make big profits
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Supermarkets make small profits compared to similar sized companies, think it about 2 or 3 %.
Why do people working full time on min wage need UC, oh yes crap policies like massive immigration forcing up house prices or do you not understand supply and demand and making our energy prices some of the highest in the world because of virtue signalling about climate policies.
Alot of these companies seem to love moving to eu countries with there low tax policies, perhaps people should start calling them out.
 
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Pure River Slut said:
Better than the people who vote for one single policy that isn’t even realistic while signing their rights away and being made poorer
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Wait until they find out that Farage can't "Stop The Boats" as he says he can, then blames "lefty lawyers" and anybody else they can think of. They are in for a shock. They shot themselves in the foot with "Brexit" and are now re-loading and preparing to shoot themselves in the other foot. If it wasn't so serious it would almost be funny.
 
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DH4 said:
Wait until they find out that Farage can't "Stop The Boats" as he says he can, then blames "lefty lawyers" and anybody else they can think of. They are in for a shock. They shot themselves in the foot with "Brexit" and are now re-loading and preparing to shoot themselves in the other foot. If it wasn't so serious it would almost be funny.
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Why can`t he stop the boats?
Even if they land you just kick the ****ers straight back out. There is a reason they are called Illegal, beause they don`t come in through official channels.
**** the ECHR, if it`s illegal we have every right to refuse entry.
 
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Diego said:
Why can`t he stop the boats?
Even if they land you just kick the ****ers straight back out. There is a reason they are called Illegal, beause they don`t come in through official channels.
**** the ECHR, if it`s illegal we have every right to refuse entry.
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There is a reason they are coming here in small boats, Brexit. Previously they could claim "asylum" in France. Now they have to be on British soil to claim it. Hence Farage's Brexit boats. 99% of people who voted for Brexit thought it would stop mass immigration. Brexit has made immigration much much worse. And you think he suddenly has the answer to it now? He has convinced you it's the ECHR has he? :emoticon-0140-rofl:
 
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There is a reason they are coming here in small boats, Brexit. Previously they could claim "asylum" in France. Now they have to be on British soil to claim it. Hence Farage's Brexit boats. 99% of people who voted for Brexit thought it would stop mass immigration. Brexit has made immigration much much worse. And you think he suddenly has the answer to it now? He has convinced you it's the ECHR has he? :emoticon-0140-rofl:
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So the question should be, why are they travelling through multiple SAFE countries, unless the EU is not safe. Is it because the UK is too soft and willing to take money away for it's own people who need it and give it to all and sundry.
Also what is the point of a passport if according to you any one can just walk into any country they like.
 
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Diego said:
Why can`t he stop the boats?
Even if they land you just kick the ****ers straight back out. There is a reason they are called Illegal, beause they don`t come in through official channels.
**** the ECHR, if it`s illegal we have every right to refuse entry.
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Please explain who does that, how and where do they take them …

… I’m not saying you’re wrong, just interested to know if it’s your solution or actually Reform policy.
 
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Ronsafc said:
So the question should be, why are they travelling through multiple SAFE countries, unless the EU is not safe. Is it because the UK is too soft and willing to take money away for it's own people who need it and give it to all and sundry.
Also what is the point of a passport if according to you any one can just walk into any country they like.
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Do you think Farage is actually bothered about migrants?
If you look at who invest in his political business, they're not people who are even vaguely interested in keeping migrants away from Sunderland. They are people who make huge wealth out of tax avoidance, oil, crypto currency and weaponry
I know you said you read the FT so i’d imagine you’re not falling for it - they aren’t

Some info on his murky dealings here
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