Pretty sure no one else will be stupid enough to either break the rule or get caught!
Saints expelled from Play Offs by EFL
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I just can't see any other way in which Tonda doesn't get a footballing ban from the FA now. He may genuinely be telling the truth, but that doesn't take away from the fact that you might have repeatedly broken rules because of your own ignorance.
In all my annoyance about this, I do think there is a possibility this is a wide spread practice and we have only been caught by virtue of the fact we are so ****ing amateur.
It would be funny if they set this precedent and then examples start popping up left, right and center next season meaning points deductions all over the place.
Yeah they've gone extremely harsh without setting a precedent unless it happens in the play offs again.
I can almost guarantee you that every team in the EFL finds ways to gain a competitive advantage, even if it is 1-2%. We aren't the only ones doing it, but if this punishment sticks, we may well be the last.
I think the play offs and the league season are technically separate competitions. So it's expulsion for the bang-to-rights spying on Boro and a 4 point deduction for the other games and the likelihood it's happened more often.
Very good point. I don’t think they’ll ever be able to replicate it. Can see our fans looking back at this is disgust when another club simply gets a fine for the same crime in the future sadly! We’ve been mugged off by a decent media campaign from Boro & the mob mentality that followed!
I still don't know how Middlesbrough can be put through to the final, when the EFL let two games go ahead (as I've mentioned many times). If they beat Hull, you'd think they would make a case that they lost to a team that shouldn't have been in the final?
Hull City fan in peace.
I hope all your family are ok, but particularly your oldest son.
My oldest Grandson is autistic and likes to occasionally go with me to games, and even when he isn’t going he likes to talk about the fact he has done and that we go together.
I’m even having to try and grow an apple tree from seeds he kept from a free apple he got from the kids fruit box at a game!
Different point really but the club have been fantastic with him (sensory room access, dedicated parking spot, showing him round days before games so he knows where he is going and sitting before anyone else is in the stadium etc)
I really feel for you, and can imagine how hard this is for him and you.
Sending you all my best wishes.
Take care
Let's have a moment to sympathise with the poor **** tasked with going through the email inbox tomorrow...
You think it would, but the EFL also let both legs of the semi-final be played in that time. Not sure how that would work from a legal standpoint.
Not necessarily, I think they'll say expulsion is the only sporting sanction available for a knockout competition like the play offs and the 4 points is for the spying on Ipswich and Oxford (and probably others but that can't be proved).
Saying that they do it in other countries is no defence, it is cheating and says a lot about your character if you do it. Nobody knows how much benefit has been gained throughout this season from it and they obviously felt it was worth the risk.
The whole episode has left me feeling a bit grubby and I want to feel pride in my club competing in the right way.
The whole episode has left me feeling a bit grubby and I want to feel pride in my club competing in the right way.
I’m going to give this some serious thought over the coming weeks and months, but I am thinking about quitting match day thread activities over all this.
People are going to start to think I’m in on the cheating and I’m not sure I can risk ruining my exemplary behaviour and profile being tarnished on Not606 due to the activities of Southampton Football Club.
People are going to start to think I’m in on the cheating and I’m not sure I can risk ruining my exemplary behaviour and profile being tarnished on Not606 due to the activities of Southampton Football Club.
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Gonna be weird next season when we're still on an unbeaten run after making the play offs and not going up
Yep. Tonda admitting he has done this will be the end of it and him. No way the appeal gets overturned because they will just make the point that the punishment is simply a forefeit of the game that we cheated. Nothing more than that. Its inconceivable that nobody knew we were breaking the rules and we've been caught doing it, so unlike FFP where accountants can move a few million and hide a few million and argue over minutiae for years we are basically ****ed.