Match Day Thread Play Off Final. Hull City v Boro

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

City win?

  • City

  • Smoggies


Results are only viewable after voting.
Exactly and if Boro had of put a couple of their chances in the back of the net in the 1st leg at home this spying charge would have been kicked into the long grass and probably forgotten about. So someone spied on another team?? Is it such a big deal? Would it even have been a problem if Boro had won? Fine them, warn them and move on FFS.
They should change the rules and allow spying.
It would create new, high quality, spying jobs, help travel companies and hotels etc, and create knock on jobs such as Sports Spying courses, drone manufacturing, false nose/glasses production, and spy proof construction for building companies.
Also the very best sports spies could be made available for military contracts as needed.
Short sighted to ban it really.
 
Fine them, warn them and move on FFS.
I fundamentally disagree. No Governing body/Organisation can allow cheats to prosper, which Southampton will do if they win the playoff final. In my mind they MUST be disqualified from the playoffs. What happens next is then up to the EFL. Lets see if they have the balls?
I somewhat doubt it.
 
How do you deter a team from trying something like this again?

If the outcome is "let them play and have a chance at getting promoted" or "massive fine, move on" then it sends the message that there's no downside to doing this if your owner can take the financial hit.

The answer is they need to throw the book at them, the punishment should be enough that it acts as a deterrent to anybody else. Cheating in sport should not be allowed to slide because of who did it or how it happened.

They gained an unfair advantage over their opposition, won the two legged tie and if the end result gives them any chance at being promoted, then it's pointless having any discussion when this inevitably happens again.
 
They should change the rules and allow spying.
It would create new, high quality, spying jobs, help travel companies and hotels etc, and create knock on jobs such as Sports Spying courses, drone manufacturing, false nose/glasses production, and spy proof construction for building companies.
Also the very best sports spies could be made available for military contracts as needed.
Short sighted to ban it really.
Er, you wouldn't need false nose/glasses if spying was allowed Dennis.
 

I suspect the EFL might be being lily-livered as they were for the two Boro-Soton legs. They were obviously hoping for a Boro win which didn’t materialise. I wonder if the process won’t be completed before the 23rd. The EFL therefore let the final go ahead. If we win, immediate problem solved cleanly. If they win, then lose their appeal (which is pretty certain based on that legal opinion) we would then be promoted by default.
This outcome would not surprise me in the slightest. Efl gets its huge money maker at wembley and we either go up as winners on the day or go up at a later date after Southampton’s punishment is declared
 
Apologies if this has already been posted as haven’t been keeping up the last few hours, but I found this fascinating. A legal view from sports lawyers on why Southampton should be expelled from the play offs, looking at previous precedents and dissecting the language in the 25/26 Swindon case, which is probably the closest parallel. https://www.stewartslaw.com/news/sp...-v-middlesbrough-play-off-spying-allegations/
I rest my case your honor -City to the Premier League.
 
Interesting stuff, and seems reasonable on all of the points of law. Unless I missed it though, what is conspicuous by its absence is what would happen after Southampton were expelled.

Are Middlesbrough awarded the semi-final, or are we awarded the final by default?

I’d infer the former to reinstate Middlesbrough’s position prior to the breach, but if that happens I don’t think we’re playing on Saturday and you’d have thousands if not tens of thousands of seats on coaches, hotel rooms etc wasted. That said the consequences for the fans of Hull City rather than the club itself are probably of no interest to a sporting judge.

The game will be going ahead on Saturday 100%. The EFL will not want to risk getting the email I will be sending them if not.
 
You must log in or register to see images
A lot of pensioners don’t have private pensions. The value of a house is meaningless as regards spending power. A young adult on minimum wage living at home has more disposable income than someone with only a basic state pension no matter what their house is worth. You think all pensioners living in Hull are rolling in it?
 
If Southampton are expelled, Middlesbrough are reinstated and we play Boro in the middle of next week, that is the very worst outcome for Hull City and Hull City fans. That’s all I’m bothered about now. Justice can wait.

If we’re thrown out , which I expect , you should get straight through to the final .

You can’t tell me that by doing what we did gave us such an advantage ( if any ) , that it enabled us to beat Boro over two legs , I don’t believe that for one second .