Match Day Thread Play Off Final. Hull City v Boro

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I’m a bit of an idiot on this ticketing stuff and would appreciate confirmation on the assumptions I am making:

We are not members but supporters therefore I don’t believe I am eligible to buy tickets until Sunday at 8 am.

I manage the family account:

Me 110 points
Daughter 110 points
Sister 30 points
Partner 30 points

The website says you can purchase two tickets per valid customer number with a maximum of six tickets per basket.

When I look at the my friends and family screen I don’t see a customer number I just see 3 members in your friends and family. Am I right in assuming that the number next to each member is their respective customer number?

The website also says you can purchase two tickets per valid customer number with a maximum of six tickets in the basket. Am I right in assuming I could request 2 each for me and my daughter and I each for sister and partner to make a total of six in the basket?
 
balkan tiger said:
Managed for years without a rule and I presume spying had been going on.

It was the media and social media over the Leeds incident that brought a knee jerk reaction of bringing in a law but not clearly defining the punishments.
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I doubt it was a knee jerk reaction at all. And the punishments are defined. The actual events & evidence have to be evaluated then weighed against the set range of punishments. That's how things naturally and logically work.
I'm just hoping that the evidence is so compelling, and goes deeper than just the Boro incident, that Southampton get a points deduction for THIS season and therefore eliminated from the play offs, or are just simply booted out of the play offs. I'm thinking that anything less is bottling it.
 
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Kevin Francis said:
Anyone else think this spy gate thing is being massively blown out of proportion? I very much doubt the footage would have a huge impact on the result. A warning and a fine would surely be the most sensible and appropriate punishment? Nothing to see here move on, let’s get on with beating them.
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That's a fair point, however, from my understanding other clubs are now suggesting that agent 00-Oh from Southampton was spying on them.
Which if proved suggests they had broken the rule on multiple times, requiring a severe sanction.

Agent 00-Oh was Charles Hawtry from Carry-On Spying.
 
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Amin Arrears said:
Drones are so obvious, clear to see and easy to hear. But unless you caught someone in the act of flying it, which if the operator had half a brain would be nigh on impossible, it would be impossible to prove who it was. Could open a whole can of worms, false flag attempts etc.
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I spotted a drone over our house.
If you can move fairly quickly, and the knobhead operating it isn’t that bright, then you can follow it down the road and see what garden it lands in and knock on their door and threaten to come back if it ever appears above your house again and kick **** out of anyone who looks capable of operating a drone.
…apparently
 
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greene said:
I’m a bit of an idiot on this ticketing stuff and would appreciate confirmation on the assumptions I am making:

We are not members but supporters therefore I don’t believe I am eligible to buy tickets until Sunday at 8 am.

I manage the family account:

Me 110 points
Daughter 110 points
Sister 30 points
Partner 30 points

The website says you can purchase two tickets per valid customer number with a maximum of six tickets per basket.

When I look at the my friends and family screen I don’t see a customer number I just see 3 members in your friends and family. Am I right in assuming that the number next to each member is their respective customer number?

The website also says you can purchase two tickets per valid customer number with a maximum of six tickets in the basket. Am I right in assuming I could request 2 each for me and my daughter and I each for sister and partner to make a total of six in the basket?
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Your customer number is on your account. You cannot log in if it isn't sorted so don't think you've got any worries there . Yes the number is their customer number. On your last point if I were you I'd call the ticket office tomorrow. Explain what you want to do and they'll say ok or not.
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
I doubt it was a knee jerk reaction at all. And the punishments are defined. The actual events & evidence have to be evaluated then weighed against the set range of punishments. That's how things naturally and logically work.
I'm just hoping that the evidence is so compelling, and goes deeper than just the Boro incident, that Southampton get a points deduction for THIS season and therefore eliminated from the play offs, or are just simply booted out of the play offs. I'm thinking that anything less is bottling it.
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It will be expulsion at the very least by way of forfeiting the first leg. If people read the Swindon 25/26 adjudication I posted, they’ll see that it’s likely the EFL will recommend the punishment they see fit. The fact that the EFL have raised the possibility of appeals and the play off being postponed means they know it’s likely Southampton will appeal, which means they have in turn almost certainly recommended expulsion in some form. The EFL have probably already sent their case to the panel after considering Boro’s evidence. Southampton will have made some pathetic ‘lone wolf intern’ defence, but with Boro’s expert witness of a former Southampton performance analyst who was sacked for refusing to spy on other clubs, there is nil chance of that defence being accepted. It’s quite possible Southampton are so bang to rights they might not even appeal.
 
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tigermaul said:
It will be expulsion at the very least by way of forfeiting the first leg. If people read the Swindon 25/26 adjudication I posted, they’ll see that it’s likely the EFL will recommend the punishment they see fit. The fact that the EFL have raised the possibility of appeals and the play off being postponed means they know it’s likely Southampton will appeal, which means they have in turn almost certainly recommended expulsion in some form. The EFL have probably already sent their case to the panel after considering Boro’s evidence. Southampton will have made some pathetic ‘lone wolf intern’ defence, but with Boro’s expert witness of a former Southampton performance analyst who was sacked for refusing to spy on other clubs, there is nil chance of that defence being accepted. It’s quite possible Southampton are so bang to rights they might not even appeal.
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They would never accept it anyway. As I said earlier as if they’re gonna accept the lad took a days annual leave and travelled most the length of the country to watch their opponents training, with a clearly pre-planned escape, just for ****s and giggles.
 
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tigermaul said:
It will be expulsion at the very least by way of forfeiting the first leg. If people read the Swindon 25/26 adjudication I posted, they’ll see that it’s likely the EFL will recommend the punishment they see fit. The fact that the EFL have raised the possibility of appeals and the play off being postponed means they know it’s likely Southampton will appeal, which means they have in turn almost certainly recommended expulsion in some form. The EFL have probably already sent their case to the panel after considering Boro’s evidence. Southampton will have made some pathetic ‘lone wolf intern’ defence, but with Boro’s expert witness of a former Southampton performance analyst who was sacked for refusing to spy on other clubs, there is nil chance of that defence being accepted. It’s quite possible Southampton are so bang to rights they might not even appeal.
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What happens in case of appeal? Surely that could take weeks/months. Does the game go ahead and if later found guilty we’re promoted even if we lost the final
 
Gone For A Walk said:
I doubt it was a knee jerk reaction at all. And the punishments are defined. The actual events & evidence have to be evaluated then weighed against the set range of punishments. That's how things naturally and logically work.
I'm just hoping that the evidence is so compelling, and goes deeper than just the Boro incident, that Southampton get a points deduction for THIS season and therefore eliminated from the play offs, or are just simply booted out of the play offs. I'm thinking that anything less is bottling it.
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What punishments are defined?
What set rate of punishments? The rule they made is so wide open to interpretation and therefore subsequent legal challenges

All it says is fines, immediate points deductions or tournament disqualification.

  • Range of Sanctions: Because the regulations were updated after 2019, an independent panel is no longer limited to financial penalties. Depending on the severity and whether senior staff knew of the operation, punishments can scale up to immediate points deductions or tournament disqualification.
  • Precedents: Disciplinary commissions look to global sports precedents, such as FIFA’s decision to issue a six-point deduction and a one-year coaching ban to the Canadian Women's Olympic soccer team in 2024 for using a drone to spy on an opponent's closed training session
 
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tigermaul said:
It will be expulsion at the very least by way of forfeiting the first leg. If people read the Swindon 25/26 adjudication I posted, they’ll see that it’s likely the EFL will recommend the punishment they see fit. The fact that the EFL have raised the possibility of appeals and the play off being postponed means they know it’s likely Southampton will appeal, which means they have in turn almost certainly recommended expulsion in some form. The EFL have probably already sent their case to the panel after considering Boro’s evidence. Southampton will have made some pathetic ‘lone wolf intern’ defence, but with Boro’s expert witness of a former Southampton performance analyst who was sacked for refusing to spy on other clubs, there is nil chance of that defence being accepted. It’s quite possible Southampton are so bang to rights they might not even appeal.
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This all sounds a bit logical for on here…
 
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