Agree with that - my point was that, if he goes, it is unlikely to be because a leadership contest will be triggered ... because I don't see any plausible challenger (currently) attracting the support of all 81 (or more) MPs ...
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Agree with that - my point was that, if he goes, it is unlikely to be because a leadership contest will be triggered ... because I don't see any plausible challenger (currently) attracting the support of all 81 (or more) MPs ...
It dosen't ****ing matter, Cooper and Shamood front benchers have come out against him, add to that Streeting and Raynor, he's ****ed.
All I heard him say today was I take responsibility, then in the next breath he was blaming everyone and everything but himself. He broke his promises until he was made to do u-turns on them. Labour sat on the opposition benches for 14 years and this further two years, they've known for 16 years how ****ed this country was, so why make promises you can't keep, why lie, he came in under the banner that he was going to be different, that no one is bigger than the country, but he's put himself first everytime before the country. Mandelson, McSweeney, he's a liar and will do anything to save his own skin, so much so he brought back two 75 year olds from retirement, how long before we see Tony Blair, overlooking all the young talent that the Labour Party has. Millionaires just like the Tories looking after themselves. Good riddance to the ****.
Of course it matters
... he's obviously very thick skinned... and if he doesn't go voluntarily it is unlikely that he'll go by a formal leadership contest at this point in time, for the reasons I've given - no single challenger getting the backing of 81 MPs - no leadership contest - simple as ... and it's not guaranteed that he would lose a formal leadership contest, even if one could be forced ...So the only real possibility of him going at this point - is if he decides to throw in the towel...
You could/should have stopped there.Of course it matters
So the only real possibility of him going at this point - is if he decides to throw in the towel...
It's to persuade him to set a date for a leadership change, but depending whose side you are on, they want different outcomes, as I explained all earlier, until you rocked here from GC being a cock as usual.Of course it matters
So the only real possibility of him going at this point - is if he decides to throw in the towel...
Anyway your L1 now, enjoy your relegation to General Chat, prick.
So if a leader is ****e the Tories can react faster and easier to solve the problem?
Surely we get to the first stage first than worrying about the second stage at this point, who do I trust most Fosse on the internet or Kevin Maguire hmmm let me think, Fosse I know it all or a British political journalist and associate editor of the Daily Mirror and previous Chief Reporter for the Guardian - close contest.
Should never of removed Boris the same as they should never remove Starmer, but some people have double standards and expect it for one and not the other - so I'm happy to participate in the game if that's how it rolls.
Correct, the party leader is just that not an Emporer. When a decision is made it`s made/approved by far more than one person
Right so let's get his clear before ****ing mastermind pops up again...
The idea is to get Keir Starmer to set a date for a leadership contest in preparation for the PM to resign. That date would ideally for some (not talking about me) be September, so Andy Burnham can be moved into position for the contest. Wes Streeting would naturally like that to be sooner for his own self interests, because he knows he would not beat Andy Burnham. The idea tomorrow in the eyes of someone like Yvette Cooper is for KS to politely and honourably accept that request for a FUTURE date.
The idea is to get Keir Starmer to set a date for a leadership contest in preparation for the PM to resign. That date would ideally for some (not talking about me) be September, so Andy Burnham can be moved into position for the contest. Wes Streeting would naturally like that to be sooner for his own self interests, because he knows he would not beat Andy Burnham. The idea tomorrow in the eyes of someone like Yvette Cooper is for KS to politely and honourably accept that request for a FUTURE date.
The number of MP's is to demonstrate to the Prime Minister that there is enough MP's to support change, whether they are all behind the same person at this stage matters not, unless he wants to be a stubborn ****er of course.
The 81 MPs (20% of Labour MPs) do not have to unite behind a single replacement for Sir Keir Starmer at the first stage, but they must unite to trigger the contest.
The 81 MPs (20% of Labour MPs) do not have to unite behind a single replacement for Sir Keir Starmer at the first stage, but they must unite to trigger the contest.
The Tory process for electing a new leader is more straightforward than the Labour process
What a pile of bollocks. Maybe just have MPs vote on it rather than this ****e. Ooooh the unions like this one.
Key Stages of the Leadership Election Process:
Key Stages of the Leadership Election Process:
- Triggering an Election: A contest happens when there is a vacancy (resignation) or a successful leadership challenge, with timings determined by the National Executive Committee (NEC).
- Nominations (The "Threshold"): To appear on the ballot, candidates must be MPs and secure nominations from 20% of the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP). They must also receive nominations from either 5% of Constituency Labour Parties (CLPs) or at least three affiliated organisations (two of which must be trade unions) representing 5% of the affiliated membership.
- Voting System: Labour uses the Alternative Vote (AV) system, which is a preferential ballot. Voters rank candidates (1, 2, 3...) in order of preference.
- Winning the Election: If a candidate wins more than 50% of the vote on the first round, they win. If not, the lowest-placed candidate is eliminated, and their votes are redistributed to the second preferences, continuing until someone passes the 50% threshold.
- Equal Franchise: Once the nominations are met, the final vote is a one-member, one-vote system, meaning votes from MPs, members, and supporters are weighted equally