Yes, it’s embarrassing for the Russians that their projected two-week military operation against what they thought was an easy target is now in its fourth year.
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I would suggest they have gone as far as they wanted to. All the suggestions in the media and by the military experts of putin wanting to recreate the greater russia by invading all the former USSR states were rubbish.
The neo-USSR thing was sensationalist but it’s pretty obvious Russia has failed in several of their major goals and suffered serious consequences of their invasion.
- haven’t reached the Dnieper and taken Kiev (stated goal of the invasion) or deposed Zelenskyy
- over a million Russian troops dead or wounded
- nearly $1.3 trillion lost growth in Russia’s economy since 2022
- fast tracked NATO memberships for Finland and Sweden
It’s been a failure.
Dead or wounded. Over 200,000 confirmed dead.
I don't know enough on that to have an opinion, but either way, Russia has viable ships, men and weaponry to cause problems for any European nation. They are sending subs and ships into territorial waters and looking to expand in the Arctic, as the US and China are. The melting ice is opening up permanent year round shipping channels and so a new frontier.
My point was more that the state of the UK navy, isn't an entire mistake or terrible idea. It's in an in-between stage of the old-style war frigates and the new fully tech modern ones entering service over the next 15 years. The old ones are being flogged off to the likes of Brazil and Turkey. Right now, it's convenient for the media to blame Starmer/Labour for not having enough frigates to 'scare off' an oil tanker, but this decision was really made in the late 1990s/early 2000s and through up until 2015, when the new style frigates were commissioned during this period.
The armed forces as a whole have declined greatly since the 80 s it's not just happened in the
past 5 years .
Not sure how you can greatly increase it without raising tax.
Jesus. If the Argies went into the Falklands would we in a position to do anything about it? Certainly couldn't rely on America to help or let us use their bases.Apparently it's five active frigates.
Another warship quietly withdrawn – Royal Navy now down to just 5 frigates - Navy Lookout
HMS Iron Duke has been stripped of her weapons and sensors and has not been to sea since October 2025, despite no formal decommissioning announcement being made. Her withdrawal from active service, less than three years after a £103M refit, raises uncomfortable questions about the Royal Navy's...www.navylookout.com
They say that as many as nearly 1.2 million casualties on the Russian side. Also they have gained an average of 70 metres a day over the period of the war.
Thought the whole strategy of NATO is collective defence. So instead of, say, the UK trying to do everything, you have a specific role. Combine all the nations specific roles and you have all the bases covered.
Obviously the US is no longer a reliable ally so there are some issues there.
Obviously the US is no longer a reliable ally so there are some issues there.
If Argentina had invaded at the end of 1982 instead of earlier it would have been a lot harder to defeat them .
They where due delivery of new planes plus our aircraft carriers where to be decommissioned later that year .
Thats always russias/ussr modus operandi
They brute force wars by throwing obscene amount of human lives
Same as ww2
"Jesus. If the Argies went into the Falklands would we in a position to do anything about it? Certainly couldn't rely on America to help or let us use their bases."
They bulked the defences up quite a bit after the conflict ended just for that reason. There's more than a expedition boat guarding the islands now.
They bulked the defences up quite a bit after the conflict ended just for that reason. There's more than a expedition boat guarding the islands now.
Argentina barely has a military, ours is depleted, there's is pretty much non-existent.
The Ukrainians can't simply throw men in there and treat them as disposable
like the Russians do
There is a decent presence of military there including all three RAF ARMY NAVY .
There is also no appetite ( or little )in Argentina towards the Falklands .
It would only change with Jingoistic Nationalist rhetoric
We couldn’t put a task force together like we did in 82, certainly not in the same time frame.
I was working at Fenners at the time and we all worked overtime designing power transmission kit for fitting out the requisitioned vessels. It was all done and fitted from scratch in a matter of days.
We don’t currently have the Naval ships to contemplate putting a task force together, never mind the logistics needed to kit out merchant ships in a week.
There was a programme on last year and there was about 70 ish Marines on the Falklands before the invasion .
There is 1,500 now along with a warship and planes
If Argentina had waited a year or two, there was a good chance that Thatcher's government was going to give them the Islands anyway, to save costs. There had been a couple of years of discussions about it and the Islands were seen as pointless and expensive - the majority of the UK at the time hadn't heard about them, the government was cost cutting and Northern Ireland was draining the defence budget. Suited both countries to go to war at the time.
Realistically now, Argentina won't do anything without the ok from the US, because of debt obligations, and if the US ever oks it, the UK has no chance holding on anyway.