Off Topic The politics thread - Starmer/Reeves/Farage etc.

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Brainy Dose said:
Of course you're entitled to your opinion....I would never dispute that. But,this incident at the gathering was the latest in the series of modern history which has ultimately defined the next chapter. And,as I've already intimated, tough,resilient people under threat,fight back.
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I totally agree with all of that.

I don't believe that what Netanyahu, and his cohorts, do is the best way to handle all of this.

It's come to the point whereby they'll use any means to justify the end they want ...

... and the amount of innocent civilians they kill has become incidental to them.

It's sickening to see Netanyahu, Trump, Putin, etc, all using death and destruction to make 'progress'.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
I totally agree with all of that.

I don't believe that what Netanyahu, and his cohorts, did was the best way to handle all of this.

It's come to the point whereby they'll use any means to justify the end they want ...

... and the amount of innocent civilians they kill has become incidental to them.

It's sickening to see Netanyahu, Trump, Putin, etc, all using death and destruction to make 'progress'.
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The modern world is a sickening place.......not sure I'd put Netanyahu together with Trump and Putin. One is purely trying to ensure his land's stability,the other two are trying to expand their influence all over the world,wherever it takes them.
 
Brainy Dose said:
Foolish remark.
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Look at the post above ‘he should have gone in harder’ and you’ll see my point.
A complex problem with fault on every side is my view. Definitely not helped by blowing up kids. Im not naive enough to think there aren't ridiculous people in this country wanting harm to every day people who happen to be jewish, or religious people praying for peace just because they're in a synagogue. Im also not naive enough to think there aren't some like our (cockney/QPR or whatever he is) friend here in the uk cheering on more slaughter. Im not taking sides, its complex, some politicians are including those you mentioned are. Everyone of any race has a right to safety and respect. Everyone also has a right to (peacefully) have their say. These demo’s are not where the risk lies. Its underground, hidden organising that presents danger.
 
Smug in Boots said:
It just shows how difficult this all is.

Some see Netanyahu as a just and capable man ...

... I see him as an evil psychopath who isn't fussed about how many innocent people he kills.
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Which he is. Not be connected to all jewish people though which sadly some do
 
Pure River Slut said:
Which he is. Not be connected to all jewish people though which sadly some do
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:emoticon-0102-bigsm You're ignoring any of the previous posts in support of jewish people.
Pure River Slut said:
Look at the post above ‘he should have gone in harder’ and you’ll see my point.
A complex problem with fault on every side is my view. Definitely not helped by blowing up kids. Im not naive enough to think there aren't ridiculous people in this country wanting harm to every day people who happen to be jewish, or religious people praying for peace just because they're in a synagogue. Im also not naive enough to think there aren't some like our (cockney/QPR or whatever he is) friend here in the uk cheering on more slaughter.Isidem not takings, its complex, some politicians are including those you mentioned are. Everyone of any race has a right to safety and respect. Everyone also has a right to (peacefully) have their say. These demo’s are not where the risk lies. Its underground, hidden organising that presents danger.
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Have a close look at the Palestinians mate. All is not what it seems.
 
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Brainy Dose said:
:emoticon-0102-bigsm You're ignoring any of the previous posts in support of jewish people.

Have a close look at the Palestinians mate. All is not what it seems.
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Show me anyone who supports Hamas and the hate they present. I’m not on any side. Its complex. I’d like a wold where Israeli settlers are welcomed as friends like any immigrant but ot needs change on many sides including our arms policy . Those supporting slaughter of innocents are twisted though. It was dreadful that music festival, people having fun massacred. Equally starving orphaned palestinian children.
The view of Saf’s mate don't surprise me. He's Saf’s mate. I know jewish people praying for peace not more damage and reaching out for friendships no division. I probably wont vote Green but i think the two leader hand in hand is refreshing. Less so some of their intolerance towards international dialogue.
 
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Pure River Slut said:
Show me anyone who supports Hamas and the hate they present. I’m not on any side. Its complex. I’d like a wold where Israeli settlers are welcomed as friends like any immigrant but ot needs change on many sides including our arms policy . Those supporting slaughter of innocents are twisted though. It was dreadful that music festival, people having fun massacred. Equally starving orphaned palestinian children.
The view of Saf’s mate don't surprise me. He's Saf’s mate. I know jewish people praying for peace not more damage and reaching out for friendships no division. I probably wont vote Green but i think the two leader hand in hand is refreshing. Less so some of their intolerance towards international dialogue.
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Not what you've presented previously.
 
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Migrant Channel crossings down by third as Europe thwarts smugglers

More boats and engines are being seized and routes are being blocked off amid better co-operation across the Continent
 
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