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I guess they breach this season as well as last? And the deduction for this season is for last year’s accounts? I’m not sure though
 
Good old chatbots:

What’s actually happening now (April 2026)

Sheffield Wednesday are facing a 15-point deduction for the 2026/27 League One season because:

The club has gone into administration
And the proposed takeover deal doesn’t meet the EFL’s creditor repayment threshold

The key rule (this is the crucial bit)

The English Football League has a strict policy:
  • If a club in administration repays at least 25p per £1 to unsecured creditors
    → they can avoid or reduce a points deduction
  • If they repay less than that
    → a 15-point deduction is applied
Why Wednesday are being penalised

The takeover led by David Storch / Arise Capital:
  • Is worth about £20m
  • Only returns roughly 6p in the pound to unsecured creditors
  • That’s way below the 25p threshold
So under EFL rules:
➡️ The 15-point deduction is automatic, not discretionary

Why this feels unfair (and why they’re arguing it)

The complication is the role of Dejphon Chansiri:

A large chunk of the debt is owed to him

He has not agreed to write it down
That inflates the “unsecured creditor” total

So the buyers are basically saying:
“We’re being punished because the former owner won’t reduce what he’s owed”

But the EFL’s stance is:

“The rules apply regardless of who the creditors are”

Why this is separate from the earlier deduction

These are two completely different breaches:

2025/26 deduction
  • Caused by financial mismanagement (late wages, rule breaches)
  • Responsibility: ownership under Chansiri
2026/27 deduction
  • Caused by administration + low creditor repayment
  • Triggered by the structure of the rescue deal
So it’s not “double punishment” for the same thing — it’s:

➡️ One for breaking financial rules
➡️ One for failing the insolvency recovery rules

The brutal reality

Even if it feels harsh, the system is designed to stop clubs:

Dumping debt
Paying creditors pennies
Then restarting competitively “clean”

Wednesday’s case just looks especially messy because:
  • The former owner is a major creditor
  • The club already took a huge hit last season
  • And now they’re likely starting League One on -15 points
 
It’s being reported that he drove through a level crossing with the barriers down and a train hit his car. Police now investigating. :(
I read the biography recently of German goalie Robert Enke who died in similar circumstances - all very sad. Sometimes we can forget that players, even very good ones, are human beings and not immune from mental health issues.
 
Good old chatbots:

What’s actually happening now (April 2026)

Sheffield Wednesday are facing a 15-point deduction for the 2026/27 League One season because:

The club has gone into administration
And the proposed takeover deal doesn’t meet the EFL’s creditor repayment threshold

The key rule (this is the crucial bit)

The English Football League has a strict policy:
  • If a club in administration repays at least 25p per £1 to unsecured creditors
    → they can avoid or reduce a points deduction
  • If they repay less than that
    → a 15-point deduction is applied
Why Wednesday are being penalised

The takeover led by David Storch / Arise Capital:
  • Is worth about £20m
  • Only returns roughly 6p in the pound to unsecured creditors
  • That’s way below the 25p threshold
So under EFL rules:
➡️ The 15-point deduction is automatic, not discretionary

Why this feels unfair (and why they’re arguing it)

The complication is the role of Dejphon Chansiri:

A large chunk of the debt is owed to him

He has not agreed to write it down
That inflates the “unsecured creditor” total

So the buyers are basically saying:
“We’re being punished because the former owner won’t reduce what he’s owed”

But the EFL’s stance is:

“The rules apply regardless of who the creditors are”

Why this is separate from the earlier deduction

These are two completely different breaches:

2025/26 deduction
  • Caused by financial mismanagement (late wages, rule breaches)
  • Responsibility: ownership under Chansiri
2026/27 deduction
  • Caused by administration + low creditor repayment
  • Triggered by the structure of the rescue deal
So it’s not “double punishment” for the same thing — it’s:

➡️ One for breaking financial rules
➡️ One for failing the insolvency recovery rules

The brutal reality

Even if it feels harsh, the system is designed to stop clubs:

Dumping debt
Paying creditors pennies
Then restarting competitively “clean”

Wednesday’s case just looks especially messy because:
  • The former owner is a major creditor
  • The club already took a huge hit last season
  • And now they’re likely starting League One on -15 points
Jesus. I thought administration deduction was this season. Were they aware it was coming?
 
Jesus. I thought administration deduction was this season. Were they aware it was coming?

They've had the entering administration deduction this season. This one is for not exiting correctly.

Sounds harsh but the rule is correct and fair to the other 23 L1 clubs.
 
Don't you remember us getting two separate deductions over 2 seasons?

No we didn't, we got a single deduction. It was just carried over because we went into admin after a certain date and were relegated anyway.

That doesn't apply to Wednesday as they went into admin months ago.
 
I feel for Wednesday fans. You'd think there must be a way Chansiri can write off some of the debt - as it stands he's only getting 6p for every pound he's owed - and get a higher percentage repaid, which works out not too different overall.