Its a very valid point I think will be supported by the accounts and on that basis we should be up there. However I think this is more a function of poor negotiations than having a collection of valuable players. According to trnsfrmkt values (which I know are a bit finger in the air) we have the 14th most valuable squad in terms of transfer value.
Match Day Thread Leicester v Hull City
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Yeah - last time we played they were competing for play-off place. They have really dropped off a cliff
and I also asked Deepseek ... can you give me the values for Hull when Rosenior was manager? and it replied
During Liam Rosenior's tenure as manager, from November 2022 to May 2024, the market value of Hull City's squad increased significantly.
The total squad market values were as follows:
Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to know.
During Liam Rosenior's tenure as manager, from November 2022 to May 2024, the market value of Hull City's squad increased significantly.
The total squad market values were as follows:
- 2022/23 Season: €65.95 million
- 2023/24 Season: €102.20 million
Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to know.
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Thing is NT you can't tell'em that, without being shot down for pointing out the bleeding obvious...I think we need snookers....Coventry will be still pissed on Sunday. Away Win...We'll struggle at Charlton. Sadly, over bar the shouting and the cat calls on Sunday night. Oh, I'm contracted to put in the 'Hope I'm wrong' line.
Big squad and Philo and Greaves were estimated as £30m of that ... and they were sold for more? And looking at the breakdown it doesn't include Carvalho nor Morton who were valued at £14m and £8m by Tmkt at that time. Carv ended being sold for £27mOur squad was nowhere near those numbers!
I think we've established that City have spent most of this century falling short at the run-in. What was that stat - we haven't won the last game of the season for 20 years? Playing Norwich, who are on fire at the moment, aint exactly ideal.
Carvalho & Morton weren’t our players, if that’s the case it’s the most pointless stat ever!
How much were Greaves and Jaden estimated to be worth when they first started with Rosenior? Not £30m.
Only looking at values at the end of a season doesn’t tell the tale of the manager, you need to look at the assembled squad and their reputation at the start. I’d argue this squad had a better reputation at the start than that squad.
Seem to remember stories of Ash being out on the Charlie once Bullard had got his claws into him.
When he came back against Millwall in the first half I thought right this is what we've been missing. He was easing their strikers off the ball and looked dominant. Second half he gave the ball away for their goal and since then he's made a few more mistakes too and never looked as assured again as that first half.
He’s had two full games where he looked brilliant (9 or 10 out of 10 performances) and they were the opening game against Coventry away and against Leicester at home. Since then he’s dropped 4 or 5 out of 10 performances. Maddeningly inconsistent.
Don't know where this comes from. We actually had an unusually small squad that season, particularly in the first half of it, but even after January we had 5 fewer senior players than we do now.
It's been said a few times that we make poor decisions, but here's an example, this is the last seconds of the game last night. Leicester have lost the ball with loads of men forward and we are breaking. McNair has the ball on the left and attempts to play Hirakawa through from there, but doesn't pull it off and it ends up with their keeper and the game ends. I can understand the temptation to play the big through ball, but look at the overload if he'd just made the simple pass inside to Joseph I think it is. We'd have been probably four on two as Crooks and McBurnie broke through the middle. The pass to Yu isn't as easy as it looks on the single frame; the full back was already catching him and he gets there easily. But the strange thing to me is no one really reacts. No one seems particularly disappointed or surprised that that break came to nothing but it's a huge opportunity.
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I said the same thing watching it last night. Such a poor decision. I know he's a centre back and probably the last person you'd want in that position, but Egan's chance as well. He had time and space to carry on a couple of steps further. If he'd have shot low as well he probably scores. Lost count of how many times we made the wrong choice in the first half as well. One J can think of was when Millar shot from miles out and it was blocked, Bellloumi was in acres on space on the right and it was a simple pass.
There were several similar instances last night.
I know Millar scored and assisted for the two goals but the amount of times that he found himself in really promising positions and just made the wrong decision or execution was driving me absolutely crazy. His shooting, bar for the goal, is so wayward, it’s ridiculous but he keeps on shooting, even when there are others clearly better placed. There were only a couple of times when he didn’t, presumably because there was a defender blocking, one when he did the nutmeg on the defender for the Crooks flick and the other for McBurnie’s goal.
He was brilliant v Cov at home as well? Marked Wright and then Simms out of the game.
He's been pretty good I think all season, it's just a different type of defending strikers.
If you watch the second goal back from last night, Koumas is with Thomas the whole way then just abandons him to Ajayi's surprise.
I agree that Koumas was more to blame for the second goal than Ajayi as it was Koumas’ man. That being said, my main issue with Ajayi is just how clumsy he looks. Looks like an accident waiting to happen whether he has the ball or he’s defending.