Coventry

[Smug in Boots]

Better team over two legs, if only there was a way to see who was the better team? Any one think of a way to work it out as I am stumped?

There were no debatable decisions, no goal line clearances and Patterson barely had a save to make in either game ...

... the only good football played was in red & white, fact.

Just let it drop ffs.

I'm glad Coventry are coming up so they can shout their usual idiotic boasts and we can put them in their place.

 

[young2077]

There were no debatable decisions, no goal line clearances and Patterson barely had a save to make in either game ...

... the only good football played was in red & white, fact.

Just let it drop ffs.

I'm glad Coventry are coming up so they can shout their usual idiotic boasts and we can put them in their place.

Its pathetic, they were not the better team they had more posession. That's not outplaying us. There is more too football than posession!

 

[Zed]

From their chairman's comments a few weeks ago about how we'd sold our soul to stay up, either he's bullshitting their players to make they think they'll get a chance next season or they'll be challenging for the Derby points record.

I think their chairman/owner is trying to do what Donald and Salmon Pants were trying to do here. Get up to the Premier League as quick as possible and then sell them on ASAP. He’s already got previous with his 5 seasons season ticket he was trying to flog before they played Luton in the playoff final. Also I hope we give them next to no tickets for when they come to play us, they can’t be trusted to behave.

 

[Essayyeffcee]

They can say whatever they want if it makes them feel better. The scoreline shows who won the game over 2 legs and will be there for forevermore

 

[C Montgomery Burns]

There were no debatable decisions, no goal line clearances and Patterson barely had a save to make in either game ...

... the only good football played was in red & white, fact.

Just let it drop ffs.

I'm glad Coventry are coming up so they can shout their usual idiotic boasts and we can put them in their place.

Last season they finished 7 points behind us, won less, lost more and drew more games and had a much worse goal difference than us and if they'd lost their last league game they'd have missed out on the play off all together. They were not some brilliant team who'd challenged the play offs all season, in a league where 4 teams were away and clear very early in a lot of the rest were very equal. In fact the 7 point gap between us and Coventry last season is only 1 point less than the gap they had to Swansea in 11th. In fact if we'd not switched off for the last 5 games we'd almost certainly had a much bigger points gap between us, maybe as big if not bigger than the much vaunted 14 point gap between us and Sheffield United. We were always a much better team than them, no matter what they or the media say or think.

It's all based on them having lots of possession in the two play off games. At their place they had 4 more shots overall than us but we had the same number of shots on target and in the second leg they again had 4 more shots than us but we had twice the number of shots on target. Patterson barely had anything to do over both games and their equalizer came 2 minutes after we took the lead and they caught us cold. And their goal at our place came after 76 minutes when they were starting to run out of ideas. They never lead at all over the tie and pretty much played into our hands for us to hit them on the counter punch.

For whatever reason they're a media favorite, something made worse because of Lampard managing them. They've done well this season but I'm not taken with them and get the feeling that it could collapse very easily. Next season they will struggle if they don't invest properly but I think the media will make excuses for them.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

Last season they finished 7 points behind us, won less, lost more and drew more games and had a much worse goal difference than us and if they'd lost their last league game they'd have missed out on the play off all together. They were not some brilliant team who'd challenged the play offs all season, in a league where 4 teams were away and clear very early in a lot of the rest were very equal. In fact the 7 point gap between us and Coventry last season is only 1 point less than the gap they had to Swansea in 11th. In fact if we'd not switched off for the last 5 games we'd almost certainly had a much bigger points gap between us, maybe as big if not bigger than the much vaunted 14 point gap between us and Sheffield United. We were always a much better team than them, no matter what they or the media say or think.

It's all based on them having lots of possession in the two play off games. At their place they had 4 more shots overall than us but we had the same number of shots on target and in the second leg they again had 4 more shots than us but we had twice the number of shots on target. Patterson barely had anything to do over both games and their equalizer came 2 minutes after we took the lead and they caught us cold. And their goal at our place came after 76 minutes when they were starting to run out of ideas. They never lead at all over the tie and pretty much played into our hands for us to hit them on the counter punch.

For whatever reason they're a media favorite, something made worse because of Lampard managing them. They've done well this season but I'm not taken with them and get the feeling that it could collapse very easily. Next season they will struggle if they don't invest properly but I think the media will make excuses for them.

Frank Lampards Coventry

 

[Makemstine Roger]

I never liked Coventry due to the slime ball Chinny Hill, the devious underhanded bugger they robbed us of promotion with thier cheating ways. So if the do get promoted i hope they get hammered, thus allowing Sunderland supporters the justification to go on there site and rub some salt into their wounds. They only managed to stay in the top flight due to Hills cheating while he had a seat at the FA .

 

[BRMC]

The difference for COV this season is how bad the relegated teams have been.

I was shocked they didn't sell out their game on Friday considering where they are etc... bring them on I say

 

[Smug in Boots]

The difference for COV this season is how bad the relegated teams have been.

I was shocked they didn't sell out their game on Friday considering where they are etc... bring them on I say

No team is a walkover and 'guaranteed six points' as Newcastle discovered ...

... but I don't see Coventry as a threat to the top half of the table.

More a Burnley than a Forest or a Sunderland.

 

[Robertson]

No team is a walkover and 'guaranteed six points' as Newcastle discovered ...

... but I don't see Coventry as a threat to the top half of the table.

More a Burnley than a Forest or a Sunderland.

The proof will be in the pudding but the Coventry chairman isn’t making encouraging noises. Attacking our summer transfer policy did seem like a badly-disguised forewarning to their supporters.

 

[Smug in Boots]

The proof will be in the pudding but the Coventry chairman isn’t making encouraging noises. Attacking our summer transfer policy did seem like a badly-disguised forewarning to their supporters.

Yes, he seems to be going for the 'bunker mentality' approach where he'll make out it's unfair and that Sunderland are somehow cheating by spending well within their budget ...

... while at the same time trying to reinforce their weird 'one way' rivalry.

 

[rowley]

After what weve done this season, im never gonna assume that the promoted teams are gonna go straight back down.

They aren't bound to go down, but they need a lot of help to stay up.

Leeds were the only team last season who looked way better than us in our games against them. On top of a team that finished 24 points ahead of us, they spent about £90m, and MIGHT be okay. I'd say Leeds last season were a better side than Coventry this season.

We are aiming to copy Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth and have done a lot of background work to help in that effort.

Coventry have a good side, mostly put together by Robins' player trading over a few years and Lampard has got a good tune out of them. They are going up as Champions, but they will need a LOT of help to survive, especially through the middle. This area is life and death in the PL.

Any team not getting that kind of help will struggle, the quality gap is so vast

 

[C Montgomery Burns]

Yes, he seems to be going for the 'bunker mentality' approach where he'll make out it's unfair and that Sunderland are somehow cheating by spending well within their budget ...

... while at the same time trying to reinforce their weird 'one way' rivalry.

The "rivalry" is weird, in fact it was something that I think was actually dying out until recently.

I remember the season they went down and we'd beaten them at the SOL, after the match I was walking through the Sheepfolds to come back into the town and I got chatting to a couple of Coventry fans, a lad about my age and his girlfriend and they were actually canny. This lad said that not everyone in Coventry loved Jimmy Hill, that his dad always said Hill did a lot of things for his own ego and Coventry suffered from it, including that Bristol match. They admitted that they were lucky not to be relegated over it from a points deduction and probably only got away with it because of his connections in the FA. They also said SAFC and Bob Murray were giving them help and advice to build their new stadium because of the cost over runs on the original plans and that Reid and Strachan were pretty friendly. Over all there wasn't that much "rivalry", especially as they were struggling and we seemed on the way up. If anything it seemed more dislike from us because of Jimmy Hill and David Speedie but otherwise they were a club we largely forgot about most of the time. We'd laugh if they got beat but otherwise paid no attention to.

I really think that changed because of that 5-4 match in league one and the way their fans behaved. I think that re stirred up old hatreds from us that had largely been ignored. It also seems that for nearly a decade we've lived in their heads rent free. They seem fixated on us, just like Portsmouth did in league one. It's weird because there doesn't seem any reason other than Jimmy Hill's cheating almost 50 years ago and them defending him about it and we'd barely played each other in years as they slipped down the league until we had problems and dropped into league one. But because of their attitude we want to see them fail even when we're in different leagues.

 

[Gil T Azell]

The "rivalry" is weird, in fact it was something that I think was actually dying out until recently.

I remember the season they went down and we'd beaten them at the SOL, after the match I was walking through the Sheepfolds to come back into the town and I got chatting to a couple of Coventry fans, a lad about my age and his girlfriend and they were actually canny. This lad said that not everyone in Coventry loved Jimmy Hill, that his dad always said Hill did a lot of things for his own ego and Coventry suffered from it, including that Bristol match. They admitted that they were lucky not to be relegated over it from a points deduction and probably only got away with it because of his connections in the FA. They also said SAFC and Bob Murray were giving them help and advice to build their new stadium because of the cost over runs on the original plans and that Reid and Strachan were pretty friendly. Over all there wasn't that much "rivalry", especially as they were struggling and we seemed on the way up. If anything it seemed more dislike from us because of Jimmy Hill and David Speedie but otherwise they were a club we largely forgot about most of the time. We'd laugh if they got beat but otherwise paid no attention to.

I really think that changed because of that 5-4 match in league one and the way their fans behaved. I think that re stirred up old hatreds from us that had largely been ignored. It also seems that for nearly a decade we've lived in their heads rent free. They seem fixated on us, just like Portsmouth did in league one. It's weird because there doesn't seem any reason other than Jimmy Hill's cheating almost 50 years ago and them defending him about it and we'd barely played each other in years as they slipped down the league until we had problems and dropped into league one. But because of their attitude we want to see them fail even when we're in different leagues.

The 4-5 game was a canny match. Still despise the c*nts because of the pointy chinned cheating b*stard. Probably childish but its been so long I believe that hatred will stay with me now until I go to the grave.

 

[Smug in Boots]

The 4-5 game was a canny match. Still despise the c*nts because of the pointy chinned cheating b*stard. Probably childish but its been so long I believe that hatred will stay with me now until I go to the grave.

Too late for me anarl mate.

I was at Everton and a young bunch of decent lads were robbed through blatant cheating, there's no disputing that.

Worse that Hill had clearly planned the whole thing.

Worse that he laughed about it whenever it was mentioned.

Worse still that he was on the League Disciplinary Board that decided not to punish Coventry.

A disgusting decision and a disgusting man who cheated on his wives and children who all hated him ...

... he even cheated on the club and walked out leaving them with the worst club anthem in football.

Hate Hill, I couldn't care about Coventry one way or the other.

 

[C Montgomery Burns]

The 4-5 game was a canny match. Still despise the c*nts because of the pointy chinned cheating b*stard. Probably childish but its been so long I believe that hatred will stay with me now until I go to the grave.

I agree with most of what you say, though I think it was heading to be more of a hatred of Hill and his cheating rather than hating Coventry for it. A bit like John Aldridge cheating that time with an extra man on the pitch in the FA cup at Tranmere. I've never held it against Tranmere but always held it against Aldridge for cheating and getting away with it.

But the way they behaved at that 5-4 game was atrocious, you could see the coins and all sorts being thrown by them from the start, totally unexcusable. They just wanted to cause trouble with us that day for no reason. I really thought it was going to be at least suspended for crowd trouble, add in the trouble that kicked off in the Wheatsheaf that day and the way they've behaved since and that's my reason for hating them. A small minded, unpleasant bunch of fans with ideas above their station who are lucky to be in the league after their own self inflicted behavior, falling out with their landlords and now this arrogance. I have only one thing to say about them. F@ck them.

 

[Jme2]

Too late for me anarl mate.

I was at Everton and a young bunch of decent lads were robbed through blatant cheating, there's no disputing that.

Worse that Hill had clearly planned the whole thing.

Worse that he laughed about it whenever it was mentioned.

Worse still that he was on the League Disciplinary Board that decided not to punish Coventry.

A disgusting decision and a decision man who cheated on his wives and children who all hated him ...

... he even cheated on the club and walked out leaving them with the worst club anthem in football.

Hate Hill, I couldn't care about Coventry one way or the other.

He also was the key figure for all seater stadiums in the UK and in removing the salary cap ... although it was necessary at that time it has now led to the mess we have now..It was always him and the FA that I hated but with the recent the behaviour and ego of their fans then they can get f as well.

 

[C Montgomery Burns]

Too late for me anarl mate.

I was at Everton and a young bunch of decent lads were robbed through blatant cheating, there's no disputing that.

Worse that Hill had clearly planned the whole thing.

Worse that he laughed about it whenever it was mentioned.

Worse still that he was on the League Disciplinary Board that decided not to punish Coventry.

A disgusting decision and a decision man who cheated on his wives and children who all hated him ...

... he even cheated on the club and walked out leaving them with the worst club anthem in football.

Hate Hill, I couldn't care about Coventry one way or the other.

It's pretty much what that lad and his girlfriend said about Hill after that game. He did a lot of good things there that helped the club, but he did a lot of other stuff that hurt them and their reputation and he was always ready to bugger off for something else when it suited him. A lot of the stuff he did were gimmicks that also centered on him, the football club was just a side thought. Stuff like wanting to change the clubs name to "Coventry Talbot" which got blocked, changing the stadium to all seater without any discussion with fan groups which priced a lot of fans out initially until the seats got ripped out and standing brought back a few months afterwards. The lass even said she though Hill had used Coventry to keep himself noticed and be a stepping stone to something else, probably the FA or EFL if he could have got there. I think there's been a lot of mythologising about him that glossed over a lot of his failures and cheating instead of accepting and acknowledging them. That lad even said that Coventry were lucky not to have points deducted, both them and Bristol could have had deductions for "unsporting conduct", they effectively fixed that result with 15 minutes to go. They got away with it because of connections in the FA, even if Coventry's reputation in wider football got damaged because of it.

 

[Reggie the Cheddar]

Back on the football side of things, I've just had a look at the championship table and I honestly believe it's the weakest it's been for years. Not to disparage Coventry but it's hard to see how them and any 2 from the rest of the top half could survive next season. Obviously it's a bit ironic coming from a Sunderland fan given the way we've upset expectations but I think we were in just about the perfect position to get promoted. I saw it described as a psr perfect storm. I'm not sure any of those clubs will be as fortunate.