Off Topic The politics thread - Starmer/Reeves/Farage etc.

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Pure River Slut said:
So we’re talking directly and respectfully now?
If you want a good look at this look at Thomas Piketty. Gary Stevenson picks up much of his thinking in England so i tend to post that but Piketty is very wise and has done his research over years.
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You’re the one who’s shown lack of respect! Never any sign from you to acknowledge a different point of view, with whom you might be willing to have a civil discourse.
Whilst I think your fiscal objectives are largely laudible, I worry they may stifle or curtail enterprise.
 
Brainy Dose said:
You’re the one who’s shown lack of respect! Never any sign from you to acknowledge a different point of view, with whom you might be willing to have a civil discourse.
Whilst I think your fiscal objectives are largely laudible, I worry they may stifle or curtail enterprise.
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Thomas Piketty's work, particularly in
Capital in the Twenty-First Century, posits that high levels of wealth inequality—often driven by returns on capital outpacing economic growth—can stifle economic dynamism and enterprise by concentrating wealth in fewer hands. While he focuses on the accumulation of inherited wealth over entrepreneurial effort, related research suggests that financial insecurity and high inequality act as barriers to innovation and new business creation
 
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Pure River Slut said:
Thomas Piketty's work, particularly in
Capital in the Twenty-First Century, posits that high levels of wealth inequality—often driven by returns on capital outpacing economic growth—can stifle economic dynamism and enterprise by concentrating wealth in fewer hands. While he focuses on the accumulation of inherited wealth over entrepreneurial effort, related research suggests that financial insecurity and high inequality act as barriers to innovation and new business creation
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Well, inherited wealth was always the conduit towards accumulation of more wealth…. history tells us so. However,I’m curious to know why the suggestion that inequality would act as a barrier to entrepeurship?
 
Saf said:
Thats like saying, Green voters, even if their intentions aren’t sexually motivated, are hand in hand with sex offenders.


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Daft isn’t it?
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I wanted to highlight this is a biological male and I hope his crimes were recorded as male crimes.

If you look at female crime statistics there is an increasing number of women committing sex based crimes. Such crimes are usually male based. However, when you look deeper, the increase is caused by recording crimes under the perpetrators chosen female gender identity rather than using male biological sex.

This is harmful when policy decisions require sex based data for the protection of women as the data is skewed.
 
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Brainy Dose said:
Well, inherited wealth was always the conduit towards accumulation of more wealth…. history tells us so. However,I’m curious to know why the suggestion that inequality would act as a barrier to entrepeurship?
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Because hardship inhibits risk taking and independence. Basic needs being met provides stability.
 
Becs said:
I wanted to highlight this is a biological male and I hope his crimes were recorded as male crimes.

If you look at female crime statistics there is an increasing number of women committing sex based crimes. Such crimes are usually male based. However, when you look deeper, the increase is caused by recording crimes under the perpetrators chosen female gender identity rather than using male biological sex.

This is harmful when policy decisions require sex based data for the protection of women as the data is skewed.
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Saf isn’t a fan of extra needs
 
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Wonder how people feel about voting for this party. More sleaze. I hope people know what they’re voting for.

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Pure River Slut said:
Because hardship inhibits risk taking and independence. Basic needs being met provides stability.
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That's a very general statement. There's no doubt it'll be true sometimes,but hardship often provides the inspiration to engage the basic human instinct to progress and improve. This instinct can stimulate the taking of risk, which then requires the prospect of reward,which is where the seven sins can exhibit themselves and political dogmas collide.
 
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Why is Britain the dearest advanced country for energy, now and also over covid, Ukraine war, we use about the same renewables as other countries but we got rid of the cheapest fuel in coal 800 years supply for gas 30years supply, apart from France every other major economy still uses coal as a main source of fuel. We also exported our energy intensive industrial base to say we reduced our carbon footprint.
Why is diesel shooting up in price, because we closed our plants down, see also jet fuel .
 
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Ronsafc said:
Why is Britain the dearest advanced country for energy, now and also over covid, Ukraine war, we use about the same renewables as other countries but we got rid of the cheapest fuel in coal 800 years supply for gas 30years supply, apart from France every other major economy still uses coal as a main source of fuel. We also exported our energy intensive industrial base to say we reduced our carbon footprint.
Why is diesel shooting up in price, because we closed our plants down, see also jet fuel .
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This country is simply far too reliant on imported gas, that's the main reason. Which is ridiculous considering the natural resources we have in the north sea for example.

The government will never get everyone on board with the net zero plan unless we bridge the gap and reduce current prices first. For me that means new contracts for drilling rights and also massive investment in nuclear power. Those will take many years to make a difference.

The net zero target of 2050 is impossible without that bridge. Cheaper bills means more available cash for families to spend on the economy...therefore more for investment in new cleaner power.
 
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What gets me is we were net exporters of oil and gas yet have to pay full market price, do all producing countries also pay full price or do they have intelligent politicians who get lower prices for home produced energy. I expect it is the later thought.
 
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Ronsafc said:
I blame the idiots in charge for the last 20 years +, and there zealous approach to net zero, without considering the consequences for the future.
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Ronsafc said:
Why is Britain the dearest advanced country for energy, now and also over covid, Ukraine war, we use about the same renewables as other countries but we got rid of the cheapest fuel in coal 800 years supply for gas 30years supply, apart from France every other major economy still uses coal as a main source of fuel. We also exported our energy intensive industrial base to say we reduced our carbon footprint.
Why is diesel shooting up in price, because we closed our plants down, see also jet fuel .
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Electricity Generation - Below is the results from an OBR report from 2023. The "enhanced levelised costs" includes upgrading the grid and additional cost accrued by, e.g. wind to allow for the fact that it's inherently unreliable. NB the gas cost in BLUE - the "invasion" is Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Obviously, gas prices are even higher with the military action in Iran, so the levelised cost of generation with gas is higher than the blue section now. So, even when you take grid upgrades into account, onshore and offshore wind and solar are still cheaper than gas, and they are immune to shocks in gas prices

The ONLY economies that still use coal as its main source of energy are South Africa, India, China and Poland. China is the only major one and 2026 will be the peak of its carbon emissions, since it is investing waaaay more heavily in renewables, planning to only use coal for non windy/sunny days. In the UK, generating using coal would be 40% more expensive than gas and 130% the cost of renewables

UK largely stopped mining coal because it was peak Maggie capitalism and it was just cheaper to buy from abroad, plus, as you say, gas had been discovered in the North Sea and generating electricity from gas was/is cheaper than from coal.

So, the reason that our energy prices are the most expensive is that we use too much gas. And the reason that jet fuel and diesel are up in price is that these are world commodities - unless your government are controlling your country's supply, you have to buy on the world market which is currently f**ked

Turned into a long post. I hope some of it is interesting


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Thing is, wind and solar are not base load power, take solar, if it was to produce 50% of capacity you would need to produce 3 × the amount of gas, coal and also extra. storage
 
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