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But the racing at 100mph is not dangerous? Obviously this was not part of the charge. I think people would have hated me as a judge
I don't know the case, just the article and it seems the cps went with careless/negligent driving, so the judge is obligated to follow sentencing guidelines.

From my experience, guiding my (guilty) cousin through the UK court system from afar, the problem if a judge whacks on a maximum sentence, is that it sets it up for an appeal, that often gets the defendent released if successful. A moderate sentence is far more likely to not be appealed or have the appeal rejected.

The girl's age and gender, and especially if a first offence, would make it unlikely to serve a custodial sentence anyway, so a relatively low one makes it more likely that she'll serve it. If she was hit with five years, for example, the mitigating factors would have her out on appeal.

There's no excuse for her behaviour after, if true. Maybe she is extremely immature and unable to process what happened. The loss felt by the parents of the victims must be agonising and you would think that the defendent will have it on her conscience for the rest of her life.
 
Was no one on here every young, newly qualified driver with your mates in the car, a bit of showing off which went tragically wrong.

Going on holiday and partying shows extreme bad judgement but what happened was an accident.

The whole crime and sentencing thing needs looking at.
 
So as not to disrupt the mother's day thread I will put this here.
It's from Emma Hardy MP

Mum like figures?????
All you blokes with moobs, your included too.

 
So as not to disrupt the mother's day thread I will put this here.
It's from Emma Hardy MP

Mum like figures?????
All you blokes with moobs, your included too.

Doesn´t it mean those that acted as mothers to children that didn´t have their own.
 
I don't know the case, just the article and it seems the cps went with careless/negligent driving, so the judge is obligated to follow sentencing guidelines.

From my experience, guiding my (guilty) cousin through the UK court system from afar, the problem if a judge whacks on a maximum sentence, is that it sets it up for an appeal, that often gets the defendent released if successful. A moderate sentence is far more likely to not be appealed or have the appeal rejected.

The girl's age and gender, and especially if a first offence, would make it unlikely to serve a custodial sentence anyway, so a relatively low one makes it more likely that she'll serve it. If she was hit with five years, for example, the mitigating factors would have her out on appeal.

There's no excuse for her behaviour after, if true. Maybe she is extremely immature and unable to process what happened. The loss felt by the parents of the victims must be agonising and you would think that the defendent will have it on her conscience for the rest of her life.
I agree with all you say, barring the last sentence. She has patentlyalready shown through missing the initial trial for a skiing holiday and posing on tik Tok that she has no conscience.
 
I had to laugh, just watching BBC lunchtime news... they sent a reporter to Kirby/ Knowsley Mersyside, to report on fly tippers. The local council 'FOUND' 30,000 tonnes of rubbish. To stop this happening, the government have decided to think about putting points on anyones license who gets caught...<laugh><laugh>

How about doing a financial assessment and fine them properly...
 
I had to laugh, just watching BBC lunchtime news... they sent a reporter to Kirby/ Knowsley Mersyside, to report on fly tippers. The local council 'FOUND' 30,000 tonnes of rubbish. To stop this happening, the government have decided to think about putting points on anyones license who gets caught...<laugh><laugh>

How about doing a financial assessment and fine them properly...
Just shooting them would be quicker, cheaper and stop them doing it again.
 
I had to laugh, just watching BBC lunchtime news... they sent a reporter to Kirby/ Knowsley Mersyside, to report on fly tippers. The local council 'FOUND' 30,000 tonnes of rubbish. To stop this happening, the government have decided to think about putting points on anyones license who gets caught...<laugh><laugh>

How about doing a financial assessment and fine them properly...
They never seem to catch anyone either. Are some council officials/police getting some brown paper envelopes?

I don't get how they can't just stick some discreet battery operated spycams on the main sites and catch the culprits.

Fine could be, say, £500 a tonne; that would be £15m. 7 days to pay or all assets liquidated including personal houses, cars etc, then if there a deficit still, a nice custodial sentence with the words "kiddy fiddler" tatooed on their foreheads

Should stop it pretty quickly.
 
They never seem to catch anyone either. Are some council officials/police getting some brown paper envelopes?

I don't get how they can't just stick some discreet battery operated spycams on the main sites and catch the culprits.

Fine could be, say, £500 a tonne; that would be £15m. 7 days to pay or all assets liquidated including personal houses, cars etc, then if there a deficit still, a nice custodial sentence with the words "kiddy fiddler" tatooed on their foreheads

Should stop it pretty quickly.
A bit like this…

 
So as not to disrupt the mother's day thread I will put this here.
It's from Emma Hardy MP

Mum like figures?????
All you blokes with moobs, your included too.

For the past 13 months we've been looking after a friend of our daughters as her parents are incapable/unwilling. Its called a safe home here but similar to temporary fostering. She was off the rails when we took her in. Not going to school and partying way to hard for a 16 year old. She's doing well at school now and has a stable home life.

She says we are the closest thing she's had to Mum and Dad like figures. Not everything is woke bollocks.
 
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For the past 13 months we've been looking after a friend of our daughters as her parents are in capable/unwilling. Its called a safe home here but similar to temporary fostering. She was off the rails when we took her in. Not going to school and partying way to hard for a 16 year old. She's doing well at school now and has a stable home life.

She says we are the closest thing she's had to Mum and Dad like figures. Not everything is woke bollocks.

And fair play to you, part of my reasoning of not putting it in the mother's day thread was so as not to disrespect any mother in the non traditional sense.

As I said the line mother like figure amused me in a child like way visioning a man with moobs. I suppose I need to apologise to any male with boobs now.

Nothing to do with woke.