Blair "I don't know who to trust".
MacReady "I know what you mean Blair. Trust is a tough thing to come by these days. Tell you what, why don't you just trust in the Lord".
The Thing - 1982
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Blair "I don't know who to trust".
MacReady "I know what you mean Blair. Trust is a tough thing to come by these days. Tell you what, why don't you just trust in the Lord".
The Thing - 1982
Indeed.
Slight difference though.
I’m talking about ‘experts’ who are trying to predict the future of the Earth (and often get things wrong) not someone who’s been on a training course to fix a Vaillant !
Who’s the Lord ? The only one I had faith in was Jon Lord and he’s long gone unfortunately.
Lord Nelson?
Likely the greatest Englishman who ever lived, or will ever live. A personal hero of mine - I would trust in him.
You can't lump all "experts" together. Expert witnesses in jury trials have proved to attract a dogmatic type, and have been responsible for a few high profile miscarriages of justice. On the other hand I trust Martin Lewis and Paul Johnson who both have proven track records. I'd rather trust the climatologists who have extensive knowledge of it than those who know nothing about it but will still tell you it's rubbish because there was a mini ice age in Victorian times.
You know the definition of an expert....
EX is a has been and
Spurt is a drip under pressure
I used to fix mainframe computers and was often called The Expert. I can't say as I took to it....
EX is a has been and
Spurt is a drip under pressure
I used to fix mainframe computers and was often called The Expert. I can't say as I took to it....
I agree, hence my surprise at your linking ‘experts’ in climate change, who often get things wrong with no comeback, to a qualified gas engineer who has extensive training and who risks his livelihood if he gets things wrong while fixing your boiler !
I wasn’t lumping them together, as I haven’t come across a gas engineer yet who makes predictions about what will happen to my boiler in 100 years time.
There simply are no ‘experts’ when it comes to the effects of climate change in 100 years time. Too much can change in that time to make any predictions meaningful, which is again why I object to being forced to use inferior products and systems based on those predictions.
The drive to ‘net zero’ in this country is utter madness and makes no sense whatsoever.
The real madness is that other major countries aren't following our example. If you look at the predictions over the 40 years since it became public knowledge you find that the climatologists have got it mostly right. As I said it's a slow burner, but it's inexorable. We'll all be dead and gone when the sh1t really hits the fan. What happens then is too awful to contemplate, which is why we don't, if we can help it. The Mr Micawber philosophy that "something will turn up " is the triumph of hope over reality I fear.
And this is why the drive to net zero in the UK is utter madness and makes no sense.
Unless you get Russia, China, India, USA etc on board you are pissing in the wind and they simply don’t agree with the predictions so you never will.
In the meantime we have to use heat pumps which don’t work in many situations and of course are very expensive (surprise, surprise), drive electric cars which are not as good as petrol cars and are very expensive (surprise, surprise), turn farmland into solar panel fields, which don’t work when it’s cloudy and are very expensive (surprise, surprise), ruin our natural beauty with wind turbines all over the countryside, which don’t work if there’s no wind and are very expensive (surprise, surprise).
Then there’s tidal and other HEP which work brilliantly, are completely reliable in all weather conditions, are limitless and endless but are so expensive that any company investing in them will lose money and therefore no one will invest in them (surprise, surprise - no mega-profit, no investment).
Then you need to look at the long term effects of changing to these technologies. Electric cars create more issues than they solve in terms of environmental damage, using rare minerals, wear and tear on our roads with subsequent environmental damage from repairs, same for solar panels and wind turbines which have a short lifespan and are difficult to recycle, meaning more long term damage, millions of perfectly good boilers thrown away at huge cost to us, millions of perfectly good cars thrown away at huge cost to us and a huge waste of resources.
Tidal and other HEP are much more environmentally friendly so would be much better options than solar or wind, but ah, there’s no profit in them, so let’s not go there.
It’s all about profit not protecting the planet.
And then of course there’s the elephant in the room……global population expansion. If you don’t deal with that, then all your other measures are pointless. Take 100, add 15%, minus 10% and what do you get ?
Fair points, net zero for me is all about being on the right side of history. Future generations are f*cked, no doubt about it. I've got an electric car and the software is sh1t. It decided that "charging is impossible" on the way to Cornwall last year. The breakdown service engineer fixed it more by luck that judgement. I don't trust it at all.
It’s all generated from Ed Miliband and Zack Polanski’s hot air and bullsh*tHow is all this electric generated ?
WE're with Octopus, it's all from renewables. In the summer it comes from our solar panels.How is all this electric generated ?
As an aside, I see the state-owned energy company EDF (owned by the FRench state) plans to build its next nuclear plant on the fast eroding Suffolk coast, partly on a coastal marsh. Their cost estimates don't include budgeting for seawall protection. For the full mad details of this scheme you can buy Private Eye. The investigative journalism in PE is streets ahead of any other pulication.
Feel free. I hope you succeed, but don't hold out much hope.I’ll make a climate change sceptic of you yet…….
Renewables are the only way forward , unfortunately the profiteering power suppliers of today don’t want this to happen - it all boils down to greed
You want to read Michael Mann. He gives you chapter and verse about how the fossil fuel companies work. They employed a few of the same characters who were employed by the tobacco companies to tell you that smoking is good.Renewables are the only way forward , unfortunately the profiteering power suppliers of today don’t want this to happen - it all boils down to greed
I always loved Miami Vice, they don’t make shows like that anymore.You want to read Michael Mann. He gives you chapter and verse about how the fossil fuel companies work. They employed a few of the same characters who were employed by the tobacco companies to tell you that smoking is good.
I was going to mention the tobacco and alcohol industries as well - strangely enough both really bad for us but the governments , be it Tories or Labour , both gain from them plus individual MP’s fingers are well and truly stuck in the proverbial piesYou want to read Michael Mann. He gives you chapter and verse about how the fossil fuel companies work. They employed a few of the same characters who were employed by the tobacco companies to tell you that smoking is good.
Shock horror!
We're having a fairly normal January.
Looks like there will be no upcoming announcements that it will be the (insert word here)-est January for 200 years.
It's cold, damp, cloudy and generally grim. With the odd bit of sunshine occasionally.
Could this herald a non-record breaking year for British weather?
Looks like I was wrong about January
Wettest on record for 150 years in some parts of the Country. Another RECORD BREAKER...
There will always be a wettest, coldest, warmest, windiest, driest, cloudiest, sunniest, record breaker, in one location, town, village, area, country, region or anotherLooks like I was wrong about January
Wettest on record for 150 years in some parts of the Country. Another RECORD BREAKER...
.It doesn’t mean there is a climate crisis, it just means that you’ve been brainwashed into believing that there is and you’ve found a statistic to support that brainwashing.
It’s just a big con to get you to scrap your perfectly good petrol car and replace it with a more expensive, more polluting electric car and scrap your perfectly good gas boiler and replace it with a useless, more expensive heat pump which doesn’t heat your house or water properly etc etc etc etc etc……