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I wasn't a big fan of this transfer so not that bothered about missing out on him. The only issue is that we only have Gomez as back up now and we all know that he'll break if he has to play often.
Sorry to bang on about it but once again Quansah going was just idiotic.
Sorry to bang on about it but once again Quansah going was just idiotic.
The latest load of bollocks from one of the online posts>
"Liverpool are on the brink of appointing Luis Enrique, but the deal hinges on three firm, non-negotiable demands from the Spanish coach before he takes charge at Anfield."
I didn't even bother reading what his 3 conditions were
"Liverpool are on the brink of appointing Luis Enrique, but the deal hinges on three firm, non-negotiable demands from the Spanish coach before he takes charge at Anfield."
I didn't even bother reading what his 3 conditions were
If (When) Wolves get relegated, there's a a few players that look decent in their team, probably be for cheap as well.
Young Mane looks a real talent
We should probably go back and look at Andre (and sell Endo)
Young Mane looks a real talent
We should probably go back and look at Andre (and sell Endo)
According to the Daily Mirror, Jurgen Klopp has not ruled out the posdibility of managing Real Madrid.
Considering the club were aware of this for some time, clearly they have decided he is not worth what he is asking. This makes it even more incomprehensible that they did not try to get Guehi in and now he has gone to City. At the moment, it does not look like we are going to sign anyone meaningful in this window. Maybe they are keeping the money for Slots replacement. A lot of fans are not happy, and I don’t blame them.Apparently, Konate and the club are at an impasse with contract negotiations. Konate believes his performances weren't a wage that would make him one of the highest paid defenders in the PL
I keep seeing this and I don't like it. We clearly tried to sign him in the summer so we wanted him. Why didn't we go back in for him in this window? Something obviously changed. And that thing isn't the team performance/potential manager sacking; we don't make decisions like that, signings are a long thought out processes and even changing the manager won't alter the strategic approach, we'd have still signed him regardless. The only thing that could have changed is Guehi's mind. Was it more money? Was it how we're playing? Did he just prefer Man City? Maybe he was swayed by working with Pep? Whatever it was, it wasn't Liverpool no longer being interested, we just weren't his preferred option anymore.
It seems that the club were not prepared to match City’s pay offer, agent’s fees and the transfer fees. It is rumoured he is on £300K a week at City, so it was probably the money
Primarily the money on offer, i'd imagine. There's also a case of spending money on someone who would have been "free" in a few months.
On another note, Pep may not be at City next season. His contract ends in the summer and he's not signed a new one yet has he?
Something else I don't agree with
It should be a case of 'is he value for money?'. The 'he'd be free in the summer' isn't the right attitude. He's not going to be free in the summer if someone else buys him or he signs a new deal. Buying for £20m now would still be cheaper than buying a defender in the summer that has 2-5yrs on their contract.
I think it's the wages but could have been Guehi preferring Man City/Pep
From James Pearce in The Athletic:
Initially, last season’s FA Cup winners were holding out for more than £35m but with no other suitors to drive up the price, they ended up accepting that figure, plus a 10 per cent sell-on clause, before the late drama on deadline day when the transfer collapsed. It meant that the long-serving Gomez, who had attracted interest from Brighton & Hove Albion and Milan, ended up staying put.
Senior Anfield figures were surprised and disappointed but always regarded signing Guehi as a bonus rather than a necessity. They were also adamant that they wouldn’t attempt to revive the deal in the winter window. Instead, as detailed above, they hoped to get him for nothing once his contract expired at the end of this season. The cruel blow of losing Leoni to a torn anterior cruciate ligament injury in his left knee on his debut against Southampton in the Carabao Cup didn’t alter their strategy.
Liverpool hadn’t expected Guehi to be available this month, given the importance Palace had previously placed on keeping him until the campaign concludes in May, and the fact that the player was already considering lucrative offers for a summer transfer as a free agent.
When the landscape shifted with City making their move, Liverpool established what it would take financially and decided the numbers just didn’t add up. It seems they weren’t the only ones to reach that conclusion, given that Bayern Munich and Arsenal also left the way clear for City, who reacted after losing first-choice defenders Josko Gvardiol and Ruben Dias to injuries in recent weeks.
Talk of Guehi only costing £20m is disingenuous. Sources familiar with the deal, speaking anonymously to protect relationships, have told The Athletic that City paid Guehi’s agents a significant commission and that the player’s wage demands were understood to be around £300,000 per week. Over the course of a five-and-a-half year contract that represents an outlay on salary alone of £85.8m. (City say Guehi’s wages are significantly lower than that).
Liverpool didn’t view that overall package as a smart market opportunity, given the club’s self-sustaining business model. It would have proved problematic in terms of their wage structure at a time when sporting director Richard Hughes is trying to negotiate a number of contract renewals.
The reality is that if Guehi had really wanted to play for Liverpool, he could have just sat tight until the summer. Instead, his head was turned by the opportunity and the riches on offer at City.
He was never going to be a panacea for the Merseyside club’s current ills, but he would have provided a real injection of quality in a department where Slot is worryingly light.
When you take the emotion out of it and look at the numbers, there’s logic behind Liverpool’s decision not to rival City for Guehi’s services.
However, it’s also a gamble given what one more defensive injury could do to their chances of salvaging something from this season.
Initially, last season’s FA Cup winners were holding out for more than £35m but with no other suitors to drive up the price, they ended up accepting that figure, plus a 10 per cent sell-on clause, before the late drama on deadline day when the transfer collapsed. It meant that the long-serving Gomez, who had attracted interest from Brighton & Hove Albion and Milan, ended up staying put.
Senior Anfield figures were surprised and disappointed but always regarded signing Guehi as a bonus rather than a necessity. They were also adamant that they wouldn’t attempt to revive the deal in the winter window. Instead, as detailed above, they hoped to get him for nothing once his contract expired at the end of this season. The cruel blow of losing Leoni to a torn anterior cruciate ligament injury in his left knee on his debut against Southampton in the Carabao Cup didn’t alter their strategy.
Liverpool hadn’t expected Guehi to be available this month, given the importance Palace had previously placed on keeping him until the campaign concludes in May, and the fact that the player was already considering lucrative offers for a summer transfer as a free agent.
When the landscape shifted with City making their move, Liverpool established what it would take financially and decided the numbers just didn’t add up. It seems they weren’t the only ones to reach that conclusion, given that Bayern Munich and Arsenal also left the way clear for City, who reacted after losing first-choice defenders Josko Gvardiol and Ruben Dias to injuries in recent weeks.
Talk of Guehi only costing £20m is disingenuous. Sources familiar with the deal, speaking anonymously to protect relationships, have told The Athletic that City paid Guehi’s agents a significant commission and that the player’s wage demands were understood to be around £300,000 per week. Over the course of a five-and-a-half year contract that represents an outlay on salary alone of £85.8m. (City say Guehi’s wages are significantly lower than that).
Liverpool didn’t view that overall package as a smart market opportunity, given the club’s self-sustaining business model. It would have proved problematic in terms of their wage structure at a time when sporting director Richard Hughes is trying to negotiate a number of contract renewals.
The reality is that if Guehi had really wanted to play for Liverpool, he could have just sat tight until the summer. Instead, his head was turned by the opportunity and the riches on offer at City.
He was never going to be a panacea for the Merseyside club’s current ills, but he would have provided a real injection of quality in a department where Slot is worryingly light.
When you take the emotion out of it and look at the numbers, there’s logic behind Liverpool’s decision not to rival City for Guehi’s services.
However, it’s also a gamble given what one more defensive injury could do to their chances of salvaging something from this season.