Off Topic The politics thread - Starmer/Reeves/Farage etc.

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North Sea too expensive and dangerous to exploit ???

Whsts wrong with Fracking safely on land....some say earthquakes, some say polluted water???
 
LBW said:
Alludes to the brainwashed far right continuously, he’s actually brainwashed himself. Worse still he’s on here trying to brainwash people to the far left
Him & Slut are too self righteous and pompous to accept other people’s opinions
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I always try to avoid being personal on threads like these, people’s beliefs and allegiances are their own affair. But I have to ask a question that isn’t specific to you, just people who might share your views. As this is a Sunderland football forum I tend to look at everything through red & white tinted specs.

So my question is this … if you were invited into the players lounge, after the game tomorrow, how comfortable would you be if you were put ‘in the chair’ and had to outline your opinions and wishes?

Would you be happy to spell out your beliefs about Farage, Reform and his cohorts to KLD, Le Bris, Xhaka, Sadiki, their countrymen, wives, etc and would you expect them to share your ideals? Would you expect them to echo your thoughts and would you think less of them if they disagreed with you?

Would you prefer it if Sunderland sent all the foreigners home, had an English owner, manager, staff and players, etc, with no concerns about AFCON…

… and would you feel justified in standing up tomorrow and letting them know how you feel.

As I say this isn’t a personal dig, I’ve just no idea how you’d begin to justify what you’re saying to KLD and other people who run our club or are employed here.
 
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Ronsafc said:
Who's defending thatcher, i brought up the early 70's before her. Was it not the left wing Unions declaring war on the country which got people to vote in thatcher to beat the left wing unions.
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Of course you are not.

For clarity she was a wicked woman who wasted parts of the NE that still haven’t recovered. She created a lot of the social and economic problems we have today (what the right are whinging about further back the thread) through mass unemployment. But hey she beat communities fighting to keep their jobs - wonderful.

She won’t be needing coal where she should be.
 
Northumberland Rocks said:
Of course you are not.

For clarity she was a wicked woman who wasted parts of the NE that still haven’t recovered. She created a lot of the social and economic problems we have today (what the right are whinging about further back the thread) through mass unemployment. But hey she beat communities fighting to keep their jobs - wonderful.

She won’t be needing coal where she should be.
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You still didn’t answer his question, which is your norm.
Why did the British people vote Thatcher in?
 
rooch 3 said:
You still didn’t answer his question, which is your norm.
Why did the British people vote Thatcher in?
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You have a very weird willingness to let kids go hungry that’s for sure. Pretty sick imho,

I have answered your question we don’t let kids go hungry and we educate people so that doesn’t happen.

Thankfully people like Springsteen supported our communities and fed miners kids. Go and watch that excellent documentary and perhaps learn some humanity?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced25n993x6o.amp
 
Northumberland Rocks said:
You have a very weird willingness to let kids go hungry that’s for sure. Pretty sick imho,

I have answered your question we don’t let kids go hungry and we educate people so that doesn’t happen.

Thankfully people like Springsteen supported our communities and fed miners kids. Go and watch that excellent documentary and perhaps learn some humanity?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced25n993x6o.amp
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I believe you should read my reply again and then answer it.
 
Smug in Boots said:
I always try to avoid being personal on threads like these, people’s beliefs and allegiances are their own affair. But I have to ask a question that isn’t specific to you, just people who might share your views. As this is a Sunderland football forum I tend to look at everything through red & white tinted specs.

So my question is this … if you were invited into the players lounge, after the game tomorrow, how comfortable would you be if you were put ‘in the chair’ and had to outline your opinions and wishes?

Would you be happy to spell out your beliefs about Farage, Reform and his cohorts to KLD, Le Bris, Xhaka, Sadiki, their countrymen, wives, etc and would you expect them to share your ideals? Would you expect them to echo your thoughts and would you think less of them if they disagreed with you?

Would you prefer it if Sunderland sent all the foreigners home, had an English owner, manager, staff and players, etc, with no concerns about AFCON…

… and would you feel justified in standing up tomorrow and letting them know how you feel.

As I say this isn’t a personal dig, I’ve just no idea how you’d begin to justify what you’re saying to KLD and other people who run our club or are employed here.
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Apparently I’m too closed minded to accept another racist prime minister. I need to lighten up
 
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Northumberland Rocks said:
Perhaps he should have took Tebbits’s advice and got on his bike?
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Bike to where no jobs anywhere
Unlike a lot of jobs construction industry workers did get on their bikes, my brothers travelled allover inc Germany, auf Wiedersehen was based on these construction workers
 
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rooch 3 said:
I believe you should read my reply again and then answer it.
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Why did people vote Labour last year? People wanted a change.

As aside the power of the unions was probably too big but she took a sledgehammer to break a nut and smashed communities. People can argue the economic merits of the mines but to take out the one employer in mining communities and then do nothing to help those communities is wicked in the extreme.

Mind Thatch taking milk off kids would have been a vote winner in your house :)
 
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Ronsafc said:
Bike to where no jobs anywhere
Unlike a lot of jobs construction industry workers did get on their bikes, my brothers travelled allover inc Germany, auf Wiedersehen was based on these construction workers
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You will have to ask Tebbit the logic. I’m merely telling you what the tories told the unemployed to do. Though I think he is with Thatch now,
 
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Northumberland Rocks said:
Why did people vote Labour last year? People wanted a change.

As aside the power of the unions was probably too big but she took a sledgehammer to break a nut and smashed communities. People can argue the economic merits of the mines but to take out the one employer in mining communities and then do nothing to help those communities is wicked in the extreme.

Mind Thatch taking milk off kids would have been a vote winner in your house :)
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So you agree it was Labours fault, that’s all I wanted to know.<ok>
 
Ronsafc said:
Bike to where no jobs anywhere
Unlike a lot of jobs construction industry workers did get on their bikes, my brothers travelled allover inc Germany, auf Wiedersehen was based on these construction workers
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I’ve worked every where in the country, plenty of work if people get off their fat arses and look for it.
 
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