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TIGERSCAVE said:
So a question.... plug in hybrid is 1.5 per mile... mine does a max 23 miles between charge (put defroster on and lights make it 12) . I dont use it (probably recharge when it reaches 10) and as soon as I get on the motorway it kicks into petrol mode... how can they say what I have done under electric power. if I do 15k miles a year and pat tax on fuel for say 14500 of it... cig packet economics...
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The 1.5p per mile charge for plug-in hybrids in the UK will be applied to the total mileage travelled, regardless of whether the car is running on electric or petrol power.
 
springtiger said:
We had thousands of shops where people worked every day , the shops paid tax , bought from local merchants who also paid tax and the van drivers weren’t in unmarked white vans . The shoppers would tour shops and buy other goods and cook wholesome unprocessed food to ‘fuel’ the kids , that’s what it was - fuel . McDonald’s etc didn’t exist so the kids didn’t get addicted to salt and sugar. People got off their arses and walked , met people and had conversations , bought with cash therefore more social cohesion and discourse , bought what they could afford - so whilst the choice of foods is great it gave rise to a takeaway driven diet full of chemicals , the whole lot driven by global business and huge chains benefiting just a few .
Whilst I like many enjoy a variety of flavours I don’t think the benefits should be just the taste and a bit of additional sat on your arse tv or internet viewing.
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Here's a true story...I ran an old fashioned hardware/DIY shop for 30 years. Sourced all my stock myself and built up contacts over a number of years. I was a one man band, just me, with help a couple of afternoons from an old guy. Over the years I made contact with a couple of local paint suppliers in Hull, I'd buy all their dinted tins, wrongly labeled and end of line coloured paints etc, anything they wanted cleared out of their warehouses. I'm not talking huge quantities, some weeks they had none to sell me, some weeks they had loads. I bought it cheap and sold it cheap. Went on for years, nice arrangement all round until one day both suppliers embarrassingly turned me away. Seems B@Q had contacted them both and threatened to stop placing paint orders through them if they continued supplying me.
Just before that I received a call from a buyer for B@Q asking where I was getting my wooden handled metal coal shovels from. Mine were under £3, theirs were nearly a tenner. I was buying them direct from a small firm in Sheffield who I'd dealt with from day one in business, 30 years, they made them themselves and I went personally and collected them. I refused to divulge my source. and even offered to supply B@Q with them, which went down like a lead balloon. That's what small businesses are up against.
Its not so very long ago when there was a hardware shop on virtually every high street in the city. Bet you could count them on the fingers of one hand today, and above it one of the reasons.
@sidenote. Read last night that an unemployed family with six kids receive and extra £14k a year after yesterdays budget because of the ending of the two child cap.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
The 1.5p per mile charge for plug-in hybrids in the UK will be applied to the total mileage travelled, regardless of whether the car is running on electric or petrol power.
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So... 15000 annually

20 mile range = circa 750 recharges or 2.05 full recharges per day. that doesnt include when its dark, freezing (defrosting) and god forbid putting your heater on which will reduce range and increase recharging exponentially.

Lets hope there are chargers at every 20 miles on every road network in the country then. Oh and if you use them you're getting bum ****ed there too.

We're getting taxed on fuel that you do use and fuel that you don't.

Yorkshire Bank Customer Service strikes again.
 
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TIGERSCAVE said:
So... 15000 annually

20 mile range = circa 750 recharges or 2.05 full recharges per day. that doesnt include when its dark, freezing (defrosting) and god forbid putting your heater on which will reduce range and increase recharging exponentially.

Lets hope there are chargers at every 20 miles on every road network in the country then. Oh and if you use them you're getting bum ****ed there too.

We're getting taxed on fuel that you do use and fuel that you don't.

Yorkshire Bank Customer Service strikes again.
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What about if you're driving abroad?
 
balkan tiger said:
It's a few years since I bought a new car but squirreled away in the very small print of the handbook was a bit about the car recording data and that data could be retrieved by relevant authorities should the need arise
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Majority of cars with a GPS keep records of driving data, which is pretty much all from 2012/2013 (not sure how long back for though).

The UK police have even used boot opening time data taken from a car (range rover, I think) to correlate with the GPS to prove in a court of law that someone took a crossbow out at the specific address to murder someone
 
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This , definitely this I would make him suffer and he gets a suspended sentence.
An East Yorkshire man has been banned from keeping animals after failing to provide medical care for injured puppies, instead letting them suffer for days. Owen Batty, of Humber Villas, Paull, was sentenced at Hull Magistrates' Court last Wednesday (November 19).
 
Heimdallr said:
Majority of cars with a GPS keep records of driving data, which is pretty much all from 2012/2013 (not sure how long back for though).

The UK police have even used boot opening time data taken from a car (range rover, I think) to correlate with the GPS to prove in a court of law that someone took a crossbow out at the specific address to murder someone
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If anyone downloads my car’s data I expect I’ll get a letter asking why I bother owning a car when it hardly does any miles and the ones it does are mainly to a golf course!
 
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dennisboothstash said:
If anyone downloads my car’s data I expect I’ll get a letter asking why I bother owning a car when it hardly does any miles and the ones it does are mainly to a golf course!
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Ha, my old man had one for a decade after he retired 'for emergencies', when the only real emergency would have been when he drove it for the 1500 miles or so in that 10 years - never had to change brake pads as they rarely got used - whoever bought it had a touch - less wear and tear for a 10 yr old car than most 12 month old ones have. He got taxis and trains everywhere.

Finally got persuaded to get rid of it for good when my sister saw him driving down her road, waved and he didn't recognise her, due to bad vision.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
This is correct, but the odd thing is, that until a car starts requiring an MOT after three years, the government have no way of knowing what mileage the car is doing.
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Very good point, not sure how they plan to police it. I can’t see people taking too kindly to having to self-report their mileage to the government!
 
Heimdallr said:
Ha, my old man had one for a decade after he retired 'for emergencies', when the only real emergency would have been when he drove it for the 1500 miles or so in that 10 years - never had to change brake pads as they rarely got used - whoever bought it had a touch - less wear and tear for a 10 yr old car than most 12 month old ones have. He got taxis and trains everywhere.

Finally got persuaded to get rid of it for good when my sister saw him driving down her road, waved and he didn't recognise her, due to bad vision.
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To be fair I do use it for other things, and it would be a bit inconvenient to only have one at home, but I do occasionally think it would be cheaper to just get taxis when needed.
Hey ho
 
springtiger said:
And the real reason they’ve decided to charge per mile on electric cars is because they can’t come out and say it but they want to slow down the sale of cheap Chinese cars which are swamping the market . Of it continues there will be almost no alternative dealerships . The Chinese put cars in Shopping centres and flog them like a jumper , more costs cut . Govt obviously lobbied by the car retail industry on the quiet.
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The push to EVs plays directly into Chinas hands. They are flooding UK (and the West) with subsidised cut price loss making EVs with the sole intent of destroying European competition. They have a long term plan. And it's obvious what will then happen. But we are so ****ing stupid, we just help them. The fact is not even hidden. We are once again playing right into their hands. It's been going on a short while already and is now gathering rapid pace - just watch how it goes over the next couple of years.
 
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Trumpton Tiger. said:
Here's a true story...I ran an old fashioned hardware/DIY shop for 30 years. Sourced all my stock myself and built up contacts over a number of years. I was a one man band, just me, with help a couple of afternoons from an old guy. Over the years I made contact with a couple of local paint suppliers in Hull, I'd buy all their dinted tins, wrongly labeled and end of line coloured paints etc, anything they wanted cleared out of their warehouses. I'm not talking huge quantities, some weeks they had none to sell me, some weeks they had loads. I bought it cheap and sold it cheap. Went on for years, nice arrangement all round until one day both suppliers embarrassingly turned me away. Seems B@Q had contacted them both and threatened to stop placing paint orders through them if they continued supplying me.
Just before that I received a call from a buyer for B@Q asking where I was getting my wooden handled metal coal shovels from. Mine were under £3, theirs were nearly a tenner. I was buying them direct from a small firm in Sheffield who I'd dealt with from day one in business, 30 years, they made them themselves and I went personally and collected them. I refused to divulge my source. and even offered to supply B@Q with them, which went down like a lead balloon. That's what small businesses are up against.
Its not so very long ago when there was a hardware shop on virtually every high street in the city. Bet you could count them on the fingers of one hand today, and above it one of the reasons.
@sidenote. Read last night that an unemployed family with six kids receive and extra £14k a year after yesterdays budget because of the ending of the two child cap.
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We've had the same with a largish Welsh, mainly rugby, brand that suddenly decided they didn't want to use the same factory as us and asked the factory not to manufacture for us anymore.
What they wasn't expecting to be told is that we bought our section of the factory in 2021 so there is zero chance of them bullying us out of their way. Absolute parasites working for these big companies who think they can ride roughshod over anyone they think is in their way.
 
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