Tonda Eckert named new Head Coach
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I still want another option, we shouldn’t jump sooner than we need to so 1 or 2 wins or otherwise shouldn’t lead us to choose, if we don’t need to, and unbeaten to January is potentially better than we would expect from any manager so a loss or two shouldn’t stop us if we are still heading up the table
Bearing in mind I still think it’s a massive risk if we got promoted via the playoffs this season and I really can’t believe we’ll be top 2. Next season after some more consolidation would seem ideal to me
(Although I bloody love the Championship)
It is such a strange one.
Keep winning and we have to appoint him surely as if say he does 5 or even 6 wins on the trot, there is no way you could ignore it.
Ah but how does he act to a bad run? We may never find out until it is too late. If he loses the next 3, he may react well and show signs of improvement (but still not win), but we will go for someone else then.
If he never loses we will never know, if he loses we will never find out....
Keep winning and we have to appoint him surely as if say he does 5 or even 6 wins on the trot, there is no way you could ignore it.
Ah but how does he act to a bad run? We may never find out until it is too late. If he loses the next 3, he may react well and show signs of improvement (but still not win), but we will go for someone else then.
If he never loses we will never know, if he loses we will never find out....
If we had appointed a big name as manager, and the team responded by winning the first 3 games, we would have no doubts about his ability at all.
Russell Martin had 25 games unbeaten in his first season with us but we lost faith pretty quickly following promotion.
Personally I agree with Glen de La Cour who thinks Tonda will be confirmed if we win tomorrow night, and then we’ll just have to see what happens next.
Russell Martin had 25 games unbeaten in his first season with us but we lost faith pretty quickly following promotion.
Personally I agree with Glen de La Cour who thinks Tonda will be confirmed if we win tomorrow night, and then we’ll just have to see what happens next.
I agree that winning five or six in a row wouldn't be something to ignore. But I would still say it's too early. It just isn't necessary to rush into appointing him. Whether it's eight games, or ten games, or 12 games; we have time to see how things develop.
If he's still caretaker come Xmas, then great, because it would very likely that we've continued to accumulate a healthy amount of points.
I always felt the unbeaten streak made us look far far better than we were. I think that whole season made us look far better than we were, which is why everyone turned so quickly because the short comings were always there. We always looked vulnerable at the back and passed it side to side and around the back. Teams just weren't going at us but when they did they tore right through us. I never ever liked RMs football and style.
But I still feel that way now to be honest. If a team sets up to attack us then we will fold like a house if cards. Luckily we've hit a bit of a streak at the moment but that will be the biggest test for Tonda.
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Yes I agree. We smashed through Charlton by playing to our strengths, but then gave them a goal back by not defending a corner. Defence is the area Tonda needs to get sorted out next, he’s already got us attacking very effectively.
Why do we need to rush? Is someone likely to poach him in the next 4 weeks?
Putting this another way would we be trying to steal away an inexperienced manager from another club because they won 3 games in the championship?
Putting this another way would we be trying to steal away an inexperienced manager from another club because they won 3 games in the championship?
lol we would.
The vast majority of interview candidates for any role, anywhere, do not get the opportunity to be judged on actually performing the role itself. Yet there cannot be a better barometer for likely success. I don't think it's wrong to point to his first two wins being a bit streaky but that is precisely what grinding out results over weaker opposition sometimes looks like and we are one of the big dogs in the division, regardless of how we started. The win against Charlton was magnificent. The players are clearly on board as will us fans be if that style, panache and swagger become a staple. If he beats one of the other big dogs in Leicester, I'd pull the trigger and give him the gig.
If we beat Leicester 9-0, give him the keys of the city 
I agree with all of this other than giving him the job if he beats Leicester. As you say, we have the rare opportunity to trial run a manager so we may as well make that period as long as possible. I'd wait until Milwall at the earliest.
This is true, but the confounding variable is that will still was there and now he is not.
If we beat Leicester 9-0, give him the keys of the city
I'm not being greedy, but it needs to be 10-0, so that we win on aggregate (unless away goals count double)
I agree that we shouldn’t rush, but 3 wins here is a much better reference than 3 with another club, another team and different circumstances
Right man, right place, right time are important
E.G. Look at Moyes at Everton v Moyes at ManU (who they just beat)
The game against them last season was pretty much where any remaining hope died for me at least.
I voted to give him until the end of the season and then assess. I personally don't see the point of bringing someone new in now. There was clearly not a stand-out candidate and I can't see that changing this season. Even if, as is being reported, Leeds are close to sacking Farke, I don't see him as being massively better than what we have now, even if he did agree to come here which he may not. Tonda is (so far) doing a great job and it seems the players are playing for him so, for once I would stick rather than twist and see where we are at the end of the season.
The only negative I see is that giving him a full contract (on full wages) might make him slightly less motivated so maybe offer him a massive bonus if he gets us promoted. That way, if we're not promoted and we change manager we're not in the postion, yet again, where we have to pay off a contract.
The only negative I see is that giving him a full contract (on full wages) might make him slightly less motivated so maybe offer him a massive bonus if he gets us promoted. That way, if we're not promoted and we change manager we're not in the postion, yet again, where we have to pay off a contract.
In a funny way I'm actually more interested in our results against weaker opposition. The bigger teams will generally be happy to attack us and we saw at the weekend that when teams play aggressively against us we have attacking players with the pace and skill to get in behind them and score goals, although we're prone to defensive lapses.
The question for me is what Tonda will do when teams decide that because we're one of the big dogs in the division they're going to sit deep against us and make sure there's no space behind their defence for Scienza and co to run into. That's where we may need the big target man we don't currently have.
The question for me is what Tonda will do when teams decide that because we're one of the big dogs in the division they're going to sit deep against us and make sure there's no space behind their defence for Scienza and co to run into. That's where we may need the big target man we don't currently have.
You say that but I can definitely see Leicester sitting deep and hitting us on the counter attack tonight.
True but they're not in great form. My main point is I'm interested to see how Tonda and the team react when the opposition don't allow us to do what we did against Charlton.