Sorry to be a **** but what the **** ...

[Smug in Boots]

Isn't that the point?

Isn't what the point?

Are you saying a Newcastle supporting steward, with a totally different standard, and philosophy, should be able to impose a stadium ban on a perfectly decent Sunderland supporter, of 60 years, because their terminology doesn't collude with their own?

Which words do you believe are acceptable in a football ground and which aren't?

 

[alcoauth]

Sandwiched between namby-pamby soft as pap and people being actual dick heads, which I've experienced on more than a few occasions at the football over the years.

Would be nice if we could inject decorum and a more stoic form of manliness into the grounds rather than what is seemingly becoming the binary of coked up roiders versus being reported to stewards for breaching the 1984 rules set forth by our leaders.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Sandwiched between namby-pamby soft as pap and people being actual dick heads, which I've experienced on more than a few occasions at the football over the years.

Would be nice if we could inject decorum and a more stoic form of manliness into the grounds rather than what is seemingly becoming the binary of coked up roiders versus being reported to stewards for breaching the 1984 rules set forth by our leaders.

The vast majority of people are pretty decent in my experience ...

... receiving an unjust ban, for saying a naughty word, would sicken me tbh.

 

[GingerMarkyJ]

Isn't what the point?

Are you saying a Newcastle supporting steward, with a totally different standard, and philosophy, should be able to impose a stadium ban on a perfectly decent Sunderland supporter, of 60 years, because their terminology doesn't collude with their own?

Which words do you believe are acceptable in a football ground and which aren't?

I meant, if you were banned surely that'd be your last step in the ground anyway.

 

[Smug in Boots]

I meant, if you were banned surely that'd be your last step in the ground anyway.

Depends if it was a one match ban or longer ...

... which word would you say deserved a stadium ban?

Is 'balls' bad enough or would 'balls' be OK?

 

[alcoauth]

The vast majority of people are pretty decent in my experience ...

... receiving an unjust ban, for saying a naughty word, would sicken me tbh.

I agree. Only takes a couple of dick heads to ruin everyones fun though, tale as old as time.

 

[Norman Stanley Fletcher]

Just to put a light hearted angle on this- years ago I was going to to a match at the SoL with 2 of my lads. They must have been about 10 and 7 years old. They both had their Sunderland shirts on. The younger one said to his brother- “ I love going to the match”, and I was chuffed to bits and I thought what more can a Dad want to hear.
Then in the next breath he said “ all that swearing”

 

[Monkey69]

I really miss it now that you rarely hear people saying, 'How lad', when someone goes too far.

That used to be me but I don't always feel confident in checking young coke-addled teenagers these days.

I always try but I don't want some steroid muncher coming at me ...

... one of the comprises you have to make I suppose.

It's the way of the world now Smug, most people will assess their environment and modify there behaviour accordingly, others just don't give a ****. I can swear with the best of them and was brought up in a mining community where strong language was used often but I was also a son and my mam would not tolerate bad language.
My dad once told me 'you can swear all you like in the bar when you are with your mates but do not use bad language when with women or in mixed company'.
I try my best with that and think I do very well with it in general as I see it as a mark of respect.
Times have changed and I understand that but sometimes in an age where chivalry is gone or even made to sound like sexism I still like to think there are some gentlemen about.

 

[Iptv]

They’d have to ban least half of our lot cause we continually sing bout shearer been a ****er

 

[RedNWhite4Life]

They’d have to ban least half of our lot cause we continually sing bout shearer been a ****er

There's a whole different dictionary when it comes to describing that tosser though

 

[Becs]

So he told you to be at home cause women shouldn't be at football but he was upset when instead of a 14 year old girl he could lean over and intimidate he was faced with a, I assume ya son is a big enough lad to block him and intimidate him back he got all upset? Without even considering what he was shouting and why he sounds like a bit if a ****er

Yes son was mid-20's then and bigger than both of us!

I couldn't understand the man's logic of distressing a child in his quest to shout about historic child abuse.

 

[Smug in Boots]

It's the way of the world now Smug, most people will assess their environment and modify there behaviour accordingly, others just don't give a ****. I can swear with the best of them and was brought up in a mining community where strong language was used often but I was also a son and my mam would not tolerate bad language.
My dad once told me 'you can swear all you like in the bar when you are with your mates but do not use bad language when with women or in mixed company'.
I try my best with that and think I do very well with it in general as I see it as a mark of respect.
Times have changed and I understand that but sometimes in an age where chivalry is gone or even made to sound like sexism I still like to think there are some gentlemen about.

Same here mate, exactly ...

... although the ladettes have changed all that and eradicated the difference to an extent, shame imo.

What I'd like to see, from Everton, is a list of words that are and aren't permissible, preferably in two columns

I'll start, you have to guess which category they'd go in,

• Balls
• Willy
• Bot Man
• Black
• Gaye

 

[Becs]

Just to put a light hearted angle on this- years ago I was going to to a match at the SoL with 2 of my lads. They must have been about 10 and 7 years old. They both had their Sunderland shirts on. The younger one said to his brother- “ I love going to the match”, and I was chuffed to bits and I thought what more can a Dad want to hear.
Then in the next breath he said “ all that swearing”

My younger son went to his first match when he was 4 on school tickets. We were seated in the SWC near the box used for TV pundits and Alan Shearer was in it. You can guess how the chants went.

We saw my Mam a couple of days later and she asked if he enjoyed the match. He told her about it and then said "errrm Granny, what is a ****er?"

My Mam was all flustered and my Dad and me were creased

 

[RedNWhite4Life]

On the original post we do live in a namby pamby society these days but in my experience anyway this hasn't fully filtered down into football stadiums. If your gonna be offended by the odd swear words then I'm not too sure a football ground is the right place for you. It's one of the few places that still retains that old fashioned pitmatic/gallows humour which is something I don't believe should ever leave our society.

It's kind of all about how people may react differently in different circumstances really. If I'm around young children in the ground I will try to make a conscious effort to rein in the language. I'm not saying I always remember this by the way but if I feel I've overstepped the mark I will apologise to the potentially offended.

I mean my opinion of overstepping the mark is probably different to somebody else's as I would describe myself as basically unoffendable.

I've been called out before a fair few years ago for describing one of our players as a ****ing ***got. I meant no offence to homosexuals with this term but was called out as a homophobe for using it.

Ultimately for me anyway there are certain things that should not be shouted or chanted about in a football stadium such as what becs is describing with the Rotherham case but at the same time people sometimes just need to accept some people's banter is a bit more out there than others and football does have an association with as I describe it gallows humour which in most cases is a good thing for me anyway.

 

[DH4]

My younger son went to his first match when he was 4 on school tickets. We were seated in the SWC near the box used for TV pundits and Alan Shearer was in it. You can guess how the chants went.

We saw my Mam a couple of days later and she asked if he enjoyed the match. He told her about it and then said "errrm Granny, what is a ****er?"

My Mam was all flustered and my Dad and me were creased

Ya mother should have just said "Shearer" and left it at that