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  1. saintanton

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    But therein lies the problem. As Solid pointed out, we can't agree amongst ourselves half the time and we all want the same thing. Expecting these things is a forlorn hope, as people are all different. So long as anything is open to interpretation it will be interpreted differently, not only by different people but sometimes by the same person at different times - such is the quirkiness of human nature.
    We have to get used to it because it'll never change.
     
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    This annoys me far more than incorrect decisions. The tortuous logic employed to deny a mistake.
     
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    Happy to be of assistance <laugh>
     
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    This is the bit that boils my piss, especially when it concerns Oliver yet again.
     
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    I was reading a Liverpool fan website recently and one of the contributors said that for all those who say it sucks the joy out of celebrating a goal, if you look at it another way, those goals that go to VAR and are upheld, means you get to celebrate twice.

    A different take from all the ones I've already heard.
     
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  7. Ivan Dobsky

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    Absolutely spot on regarding Oliver. He's the Emperor's New Clothes of refereeing, and the media outlets are very much to blame for this preposterous myth that had developed around him, especially in his early career, that he was some sort of young, shining talent in the game. He wasn't then, he isn't now, and he'll never be such.

    But, as Goldbridge accurately identifies, it's his arrogance and certainty that make him stand out in a sea of mediocrity in the PGMOL: he's no better (even worse) than everyone else, but somehow there's a cult that has fallen for his unjustified self-belief, and that includes swathes of the media, and even ex-players and pundits themselves.

    Complete charlatan of a man - the Gilderoy Lockhart of British football.
     
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    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdKWeX13/

    Goldbridge calls for PGMOL personnel to be sacked. Totally agree with him.

    IMO, former players should be employed to run the game; I'm not talking about refereeing matches, I'm talking about implementing the rules and overseeing the officiating. Stop sllowing referees (people that have never played the game, probably failed to make the grade at school level) literally ALL the power in what it a multi-billion pound sporting industry!
     
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  11. Tiresias

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    No Active referees should be used in VAR either retired ones or people trained just for VAR.
    That way you don't get the worry of criticising someone who might be judging your decisions next week.
     
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    I wouldn't even used retired ones; they all stick together in some sort of referees union
     
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    Neither of which are as good as a normal celebration
     
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    Trouble is, plenty of ex-players as pundits show they're hardly any better at understanding the game from the outside.
    I can't see them being an improvement tbh.
    Many of the top managers and coaches were indifferent players themselves and that shows it's really a different skill-set.
    I think it's a problem we're stuck with.
     
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    They wouldn't be there to judge incidents, they'd be there the implement the rules and instruct the referees on how they should be implementing them.

    Doesn't have to be former players (that was just a spur of the moment suggestion), just a different group that aren't referees and therefore won't 'protect their mates'
     
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    I just think it doesn't matter who you get really, people are just pants at being consistent and impartial.
     
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    True, but it would help if the had to answer to someone.
     
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    I'm not sure I agree with it either, except the first celebration is a 'normal' one because you don't yet know it's going to VAR.
     
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    but you do as all goals are checked by VAR
     
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    The initial celebration is short lived for me as my mind very quickly thinks about VAR. Obviously, there are some goals where VAR won't make a difference though
     
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