Off Topic Politics Thread

To be fair legally they probably need to if asked.

I say this as someone who perfectly understands the hypocrisy of an actual criminal who regularly makes false claims and spreads false news getting all high and mighty about this. But the BBC are bang to rights on this and it is a ridiculous own goal.

(Also the irony of it being the Telegraph to report it when they regularly take extreme creativity with the truth).

 

I can't keep up. Donald Trump is on the side of 'being honest and transparent is important' now?

 

Fake news

 

And especially ironic, given the way the Telegraph, like The Mail, Express, Gibbon News, and Murdoch Empire, are all actively working to undermine democracy in the UK (deliberately "flooding the zone with ****", as per the Steve Bannon playbook)

 

Let them go to court then and spend that licence fee money unwisely on something else this time! It matters when there is an actual threat to sue!

 

No. The BBC just gave the bad guy an open goal!

 

OK for people who still think the BBC is inbiased lets use our imagination a little. Its newsnight and to the left of Emily Maitlis we have Ian Thurmwood. No lets say Richard Burgeon because they pretty much say very similar things. and on the right we have Margaret Thatcher in 2025 as she was then, same ideologies and policy ideas but shes not PM (and no she's not 100, she's as she was then.)

So Richard Burgeon comes out with all the crazy spiel that Ian says on here. Emily Maitlis listens but doesn't interrupt much, no tuts, no sighs no pushback. Its Thatcher's turn and within seconds Emily Maitlis interrupts before 3 words were even uttered, Thatcher gives her a look but continues. Maitlis issues her first tut and a sigh for good measure then interrupts again only for Thatcher to continue to talk. When Thatcher has finished Maitlis gives a sneering disgusted look to the camera and thanks Richard burgeon of the Labour and Fatcha, spoken in a dismissive sneering way, and moves to the next subject!

That's how Newsnight has been for at least 5 years if not more! The left wing talking head can come out with the most loopy batshit stuff and nothing is said. The right winger gets attacked before they've even got a sentence out and the host makes sure that the viewer is aware and hopefully delighted at the host's direction before ending the interview with a self congratulatory "we got them" sort of self satisfactory pride when the reality from this side of the screen.

That is BBCs unbiased impartial approach in a nutshell!

My karma on reddit is taking a hammering for even daring to question anything the left likes. lol. Still big though:

 

For someone who claims they don't watch the BBC any longer, and haven't for some time, you have a very vivid imagination and clear ideas of precisely what happens on their programmes that you don't watch?

 

Guilty pleasure sometimes In the hope that maybe they've stopped being so sneery. I actually do like BBC News overnight coverage from the US and Singapore. Its much more about actual news rather than daytime (think they're top celebs) presenters with their little sneery quips (Naga Munchety really bad for it) and the little winks and nods and expressions to the camera..........Hmmm that's not right. you're not allowed to do facial expressions are you?..............OK I admit I do watch it a bit still. lol. waiting for history channels to put something on I haven't watched yet. Or one of them to show something other than their weird hitler and Nazi obsession. Sometimes all of them have something hitler or Nazi on them and I am stuck watching Saturday Kitchen waiting for the footie to start on TNT. Or if the missus is not asleep BBC4 on Friday nights for some old TOTP or ClublandTV to relive some of the rave era.......again.

 

Trump bullying again!!

 

The BBC are held to higher account than many sources. We all know that the print media are biased. US TV News channels Fox and CNN are famously biased without any issues. GB News get away with murder. But only the BBC get held to account with the phrase PUBLIC MONEY

(The left and the right both claim it’s biased, where else does that happen?)

The BBC funding makes it different and accountable in a different way. If it is privatised, it either becomes exactly the same as the other sources and open to exactly the same influences and biases

Those with money, power and influence have less power over it and that’s why they hate it and love to kick it in the balls. They want it gone. Be careful what you wish for

However, this affair was an own goal and hasn’t been dealt with well

 

Spot on.

 

And let’s not forget that this fire has been fuelled internally by the double agent Robbie Gibb. If he was on the board of a private organisation he’d have been ‘let go’

Breach of Fiduciary Duties: Board members have a legal and ethical duty of care, loyalty, and obedience to the organization. A breach, such as acting in self-interest rather than the organization's best interest (e.g., self-dealing, insider trading), can lead to financial loss and legal penalties

 

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An analysis of BBC news coverage over the last 4 years shows a shameless bias against Vladimir Putin, with BBC reporters insisting on calling the Special Military Operation in Ukraine “an invasion”.

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https://removepaywalls.com/https://...son-centrists-are-crying-over-the-bbc-crisis/

The real reason centrists are crying over the BBC crisis
They love the Beeb not because it stands up for truth, but because it shares all their high-status opinions.

Brendan O'Neill
chief political writer
11th November 2025
Nothing warms the cockles on these long wintry nights better than a centrist meltdown. And what an epic one we’ve had in response to the BBC crisis. Everywhere you look there’s a Rory Stewart simp in a Next cardigan choking on his matcha over the ‘hard-right war’ on our ‘precious’ Beeb and the ‘populist’ hell we’ll all be dragged to if poor old ‘Auntie’ dies. It’s beautiful. Not since the vote for Brexit has the piss of the chattering classes boiled so furiously.
No sooner had Tim Davie and Deborah Turness resigned over Panorama’s outrageous doctoring of Donald Trump’s words than centrist dads across the land were wailing on the internet. You know the type: still not over Brexit, watches Have I Got News For You?, pisses himself while reading Marina Hyde. These pub-snug bores have swarmed social media to bawl over the ‘war of attrition’ against our most wondrous ‘national treasure’, the Beeb. They have no idea how insane they sound to a solid 85 per cent of the British public.

Alastair Campbell got the ball rolling. He and his sidekick, Rory Stewart, even did an ‘emergency podcast’. Honey, crank up the Nespresso – The Rest Is Politics is on. Panorama ‘made mistakes’ in its coverage of Trump’s speech at the Capitol on 6 January 2021, Campbell concedes. But it’s still true, he says, that Trump spouted lies that day and ‘people died as a result’. I don’t know – if my BS had contributed to the death of a hundred thousand Arabs, I’d probably hold back from accusing others of killing people with words.

Campbell froths about the ‘well-organised, well-funded’ war on the Beeb by ‘ferocious’ and ‘malign’ right-wingers who are hell-bent on ‘bring[ing] the BBC to heel’. Nurse! Also, is this the same Alastair Campbell whose claim to fame is that he used to bollock the Jesus out of every journalist who refused to kiss the arse of Tony Blair? Including the BBC! Seems it’s fine when ‘we’ bring the Beeb to heel. Centrist conquests of the media only, please.

All the wet-eyed Beeb grievers are convinced shady operators are plotting the BBC’s overthrow. It’s a ‘coordinated, politically motivated attack’, cries Jane Martinson at the Guardian. It’s a ruthless crusade by the ‘hard-right online ecosystem’, says Lewis Goodall, co-host of The News Agents, the pod where ex-BBC staffers go to vent the thin ‘liberal’ **** we all know is rife at BBC HQ. Imagine insisting the BBC isn’t biased even as your every utterance proves otherwise.

he lack of accountability-taking is astonishing. Vampires are better at self-reflection than these people. To accuse Trump of coming for the BBC when it was the BBC that went for Trump takes doublethink to dizzying new heights. On the eve of the 2024 presidential election, the Beeb aired doctored footage that would have made Pravda blush, depicting one of the candidates in that election as a riot-inciting madman. Then it goes blubbing all over the internet when said candidate says ‘WTF?’. Don’t start a fight if you don’t want to get smacked – I thought everyone knew that?
The centrist fawning over the Beeb has been next-level cringe. Ed Davey, bungee-jumping leader of the Lib Dems, says the BBC is like ‘a wayward family member’ – ‘I don’t always like what it does but I will always love it’. You sad bastard. Trump and Co hate the BBC because they hate ‘truth’, he says. If you don’t mind, Ed, I think I’ll sit out lectures on truth from a man who says a woman can ‘quite clearly’ have a penis. In a ‘darkening world, we remain a shaft of light’, says the BBC’s James Landale. The narcissism! ‘I am the light’, said Christ – now overpaid suits at the Beeb say the same.

The BBC isn’t a ‘shaft of light’. And it hasn’t been for a very long time. It doctored footage of Trump, promoted the post-truth nonsense of trans and spread so much Hamas propaganda about Israel that it was forced to correct an average of two stories about Gaza every week since 7 October 2023. The BBC posed as the slayer of misinformation even as it pumped out loads of its own. Forget the ‘war on the BBC’ – I’ll reserve my concern for the women and the gay kids who suffered as a result of the trans ideology the Beeb did so much to mainstream, and the Jews who got it in the neck as a consequence of the pox of Israelophobia the Beeb helped to spread.
But carry on hissyfitting, centrists. That’s the shaft of light in a darkening world. You’re doing your bit for mirth. You’re also proving – unwittingly, natch – that the BBC really is biased. For we all know why you ‘love it’ – precisely because it does your bidding, on everything from Trump to trans to Gaza. We need a ‘strong, independent BBC to stop Trump’s America becoming Farage’s Britain’, says Ed Davey. Boom. There it is. They defend the BBC not because it isn’t biased but because it is. It’s not the passing of truth they fear – it’s the withering of their own cultural power.

 

The message is correct if not the celebratory hurrah of it. The BBC is not unbiased. It just considers good lies are better than bad lies and it and those that are of the same mind think that spreading good lies is unbiased! "balancing out the bad lies."

But that's the post truth world they talk about themselves. They don't do actual truth, they try to counter untruth with their own untruth because they, like most of the institutions and a lot of the left wing cabal, think the public are too stupid to be given the truth. they must be convinced by white lies. They see themselves like most of the blob as being the ones that must speak on behalf of and to the thicko public rather than just present facts and let people make their own minds up.

Like this. I had no idea he hadn't actually said that until this week! I had seen this clip widely spread around twitter and thought "Hmmm, that sounds guilty as charged, case closed" until this week I found out that is not what he said!

"We are going to go there and fight, fight like hell" vs "we are going to go there and cheer our brave senators" is a vast difference no matter what some, even on here, seem to think!

 

IOAG

So i take it you would be would be happy for Trump to destroy a British public service by taking legal action ? This would not mean no public news service but qould also see a diminuation in quality srama and socumentaries , one of the very same kind of programmes you raved about in the art thread. It would also be rhe nail in the coffin for local radio. No more Saints commentaries for free on the radio.

You are obviously happy for a foreign country to influence British media in this fashion albeit you would be the first to piss your pants if the Chinese did this.

I wonder how happy you would be for Trump to sue another UK service such as electric companies using energy generated by wind farms or hospitals using anti Covid vaccunes if he felt aggrieved ? Would you pefer UK News featuring Farage frothing at the mouth or the odd Rees Mogg replacing the mainstream news ?

I am guessing this is all the kind of detrimental stuff you woild wish for in Farage's Right Wing utopia. I bet you get a wet dream over this kind of stuff.

 

IOAG has not said anything of the kind you have implied. He is just being super critical of the BBC and its bias. One example of this is in news reports from Northern Ireland where the city of Derry is referred to by its Unionist name of Londonderry.