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Nah,that's a cop-out mate.This is a team competing in a European competition whose fans have every right to attend and it's down to us to police the situation,as they would do any derby match at Villa Park.....exactly the same as Villa fans would expect for their next away match in Europe.

It is from me mate, the whole thing is beyond my comprehension ...

... I'm not even sure which part of Europe the away team are from.
 
It is from me mate, the whole thing is beyond my comprehension.
We are all football supporters Smug
We should be able to support our team anywhere at anytime
Nobody should tell you that you can’t because of where you are from or what religion you are. What happens when the next Israeli team is playing on these shores, do we ban them as well ?
 
We are all football supporters Smug
We should be able to support our team anywhere at anytime
Nobody should tell you that you can’t because of where you are from or what religion you are. What happens when the next Israeli team is playing on these shores, do we ban them as well ?

That's absolutely right, I totally agree.

I remember Celtic being banned because of previous disorder, I'm not sure this is so different ...

... but in all honesty I haven't had time to get my head around it all.
 
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That's absolutely right, I totally agree.

I remember Celtic being banned because of previous disorder, I'm not sure this is so different ...

... but in all honesty I haven't had time to get my head around it all.
They banned each other and rightly so after years of religious bile. This is a one off European match off the back of a peace deal being agreed. There needs to be an example set, we can’t promote the hatred of Jews
 
They banned each other and rightly so after years of religious bile. This is a one off European match off the back of a peace deal being agreed. There needs to be an example set, we can’t promote the hatred of Jews
Exactly so. Maccabi are in the competition......whether they are considered to be in Europe or not is another question.....and I'm certainly not going into the farce of Eurovision......but this isn't like Rangers- Celtic.......there's a century and more of divide between them...in the same city!
This is a European football match,and should be policed as such.
 
They banned each other and rightly so after years of religious bile. This is a one off European match off the back of a peace deal being agreed. There needs to be an example set, we can’t promote the hatred of Jews.

Quite right, I completely agree with that.

I think you have to look at who's issuing the ban and whether or not that decision is based on anti-Semitism.

It would be interesting to see how Amsterdam reacted if the draw had sent Maccabi there.

I'm not sure if the Star of David is the only wholly religious based emblem on a European football shirt.

Whatever the case I don't think it's a good message in my opinion.

What it does is bring religion/politics directly into football which I'm totally opposed to.
 
So that's the reason the police and the club have given is it? Nothing to do with safety etc?
Thank you all who put the safety of Aston Villa fans, Birmingham residents snd the British public above the zionist and political pressure to let Israeli hooligans and terrorists run riot in our country.
A direct quote from Iqbal Mohamed their MP
 
Is it that simple?

When seen in the context of two years of marches, spewing out anti-semitism yes it is. The sight in London of Jews being prevented from getting to their own homes while wild eyed crowds, (from elsewhere) were yelling highly anti-semitic chants was a dark day. And let it be faced, the police, while acting under orders, did not appear to be reluctant to carry them out.

The police, and the local council in Birmingham have chosen which people should be offered protection.
 
**** 'em, they behaved like animals in Amsterdam. Take a step back, take the politics out of it, and it's the right decision. The police have to safeguard the whole city not just the football stadium.

It's tricky, cos my heart says fans of both clubs should be in attendance.
My head says if there is the likelihood of 'out of the normal' violence, particularly as the thin blue line could be in the middle of it, perhaps avoid it.

Has there ever been cases, say in a derby, when away fans have been banned? Off the top of my head I cannot recall any.
 
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It's tricky, cos my heart says fans of both clubs should be in attendance.
My head says if there is the likelihood of 'out of the normal' violence, particularly as the thin blue line could be in the middle of it, perhaps avoid it.

Has there ever been cases, say in a derby, when away fans have been banned? Off the top of my head I cannot recall any.
Sunderland v Newcastle in the 90’s
 
Yes I think you might be right?
As at the back of my mind, I thought that happened. How about Glascow Rangers v Celtic?
Yep. That’s happened too.

Definitely happened in the 90’s. I vividly remember standing in the Fulwell end when the mags scored and hearing a scream going up from a mag in the Roker end and then a load of red and white going up and all in one direction… to where the scream came from.

Anyway, you aren’t for a second suggesting this is even remotely the same, are you?
 
Yep. That’s happened too.

Definitely happened in the 90’s. I vividly remember standing in the Fulwell end when the mags scored and hearing a scream going up from a mag in the Roker end and then a load of red and white going up and all in one direction… to where the scream came from.

Anyway, you aren’t for a second suggesting this is even remotely the same, are you?

No it isn't of course.

I suppose the question is should Israel teams be involved at all.

Is it worth fans or police getting hurt, if fans are allowed, or should they play in empty stadium?
 
No it isn't of course.

I suppose the question is should Israel teams be involved at all.

Is it worth fans or police getting hurt, if fans are allowed, or should they play in empty stadium?
Of course Israel teams should be involved, why wouldn’t they?

If the authorities banned the protests in London because they’re intimidating Jews and smashing up their businesses, then they’d be half an argument for banning people from Israel who have never done a thing wrong in this country, from going to a game of football.

It’s even a huge stretch from me to say they’d have half an argument.