Off Topic Gigs, Concert and Live Music

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Amin Arrears said:
No but it would surely be a pretty easy and popular policy that a lot of people will support and wouldn’t upset anybody.

Other than Ticketmaster shareholders and Chinese and Indian programmers.
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I'm quite sure there's a lot of popular policy's that would please most of us(including ticket debacles) but do you honestly think governments are in the slightest bit concerned with ticket gripes?

I could drift into politics but I'll forego the lectures...
 
Ric Glasgow said:
I'm quite sure there's a lot of popular policy's that would please most of us(including ticket debacles) but do you honestly think governments are in the slightest bit concerned with ticket gripes?

I could drift into politics but I'll forego the lectures...
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I think they’re interested in being popular with people and winning votes.
 
Amin Arrears said:
No but it would surely be a pretty easy and popular policy that a lot of people will support and wouldn’t upset anybody.

Other than Ticketmaster shareholders and Chinese and Indian programmers.
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It wouldn’t be easy, Live Nation’s legal team would run rings around them.

Also, what’s described in the article doesn’t happen in the UK, you can’t resell a ticket above face value on the Ticketmaster platform here. The issue is with third party sites which would make enforcement even harder.
 
originalminority said:
Agree, the Connexin Live was supposed to be a game changer, it hasn't happened and I'm still seeing tour dates for Leeds, York, Lincoln and missing out Hull.
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It’s bringing in a few big conferences and corporate events which are good for pubs and restaurants etc, but I don’t know if the two things are related at all.
Maybe simply they have more nights available if less concerts get booked
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
It wouldn’t be easy, Live Nation’s legal team would run rings around them.

Also, what’s described in the article doesn’t happen in the UK, you can’t resell a ticket above face value on the Ticketmaster platform here. The issue is with third party sites which would make enforcement even harder.
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Yes you can. Although since the spotlight has been there since the Oasis debacle, most promoters keep it to face value. Same with most events no longer using dynamic pricing.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
It wouldn’t be easy, Live Nation’s legal team would run rings around them.

Also, what’s described in the article doesn’t happen in the UK, you can’t resell a ticket above face value on the Ticketmaster platform here. The issue is with third party sites which would make enforcement even harder.
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And I don’t see how live nations legal team would run rings around making it illegal to resell tickets at inflated prices, particularly when it’s happening against the tickets T&C’s already. Prices for the Oasis concerts this weekend were well over 10x the original ticket cost.

And in killing off that scalping industry, it would mean that a much higher % of original sale tickets would get into the hands of real fans at the original point of sale, instead of into the hands of Chinese and Indian computer nerds scamming the British public for disgusting amounts of money.

There will always be some underground network, you would never eradicate it completely, but outlawing it would substantially reduce it.
 
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Amin Arrears said:
And I don’t see how live nations legal team would run rings around making it illegal to resell tickets at inflated prices, particularly when it’s happening against the tickets T&C’s already. Prices for the Oasis concerts this weekend were well over 10x the original ticket cost.

And in killing off that scalping industry, it would mean that a much higher % of original sale tickets would get into the hands of real fans at the original point of sale, instead of into the hands of Chinese and Indian computer nerds scamming the British public for disgusting amounts of money.

There will always be some underground network, you would never eradicate it completely, but outlawing it would substantially reduce it.
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As I said, it’s the third party sites that are the issue, you can’t sell a ticket above face value on the Ticketmaster platform.

The Oasis tickets that were sold at high prices on Ticketmaster were dynamically priced, which is something different entirely, that’s down to the promoter / band as much as it is Ticketmaster.
 
Amin Arrears said:
Yes you can. Although since the spotlight has been there since the Oasis debacle, most promoters keep it to face value. Same with most events no longer using dynamic pricing.
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Try and resell a ticket on Ticketmaster, you can’t sell it above face value.

Oasis and their promoters got caught being greedy with the dynamic pricing and rather conveniently let Ticketmaster take the heat. It’s good that it was high profile enough to deter it happening again though.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Try and resell a ticket on Ticketmaster, you can’t sell it above face value.

Oasis and their promoters got caught being greedy with the dynamic pricing and rather conveniently let Ticketmaster take the heat. It’s good that it was high profile enough to deter it happening again though.
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Yes you can, usually capped at face value +10% or 20% but not always. Most promoters are using the face value cap now as well as binning off dynamic pricing after all the bad press over the last year or so. In its place, we now have piles of VIP tickets with token bullshit extras like an 20p lanyard and ticket + coach travel or hotel stay packages at mental prices. Just the same thing with a different method of execution.
 
Amin Arrears said:
Yes you can, usually capped at face value +10% or 20% but not always. Most promoters are using the face value cap now as well as binning off dynamic pricing after all the bad press over the last year or so. In its place, we now have piles of VIP tickets with token bullshit extras like an 20p lanyard and ticket + coach travel or hotel stay packages at mental prices. Just the same thing with a different method of execution.
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Not sure when you last tried reselling via Ticketmaster, I have tickets to 5 different events in Ticketmaster account at the moment and for all of them resale is capped at face value.

I agree on the ‘VIP’ nonsense though, it’s just a way of selling a general admission ticket for a higher price, it’s entirely down to artist / promoter greed.
 
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HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Not sure when you last tried reselling via Ticketmaster, I have tickets to 5 different events in Ticketmaster account at the moment and for all of them resale is capped at face value.

I agree on the ‘VIP’ nonsense though, it’s just a way of selling a general admission ticket for a higher price, it’s entirely down to artist / promoter greed.
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Ticket master have and use all sorts of dirty tricks. My daughter paid for some tickets at a UK gig with an overseas credit card, but when they were required to repay some money they could only pay into a UK account.
Ended up with two seats too many for the concert and could only sell them through ticket masters own system at face value. They claimed to have sold one of the two and returned the money, but the concert was a sell out and I get the feeling they bought the one ticket themselves then sold the two together at a higher price.
 
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