Injury Thread 2025-26

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Harry Vaughan is set for a spell on the sidelines after dislocating his shoulder away with the Republic of Ireland Under-21s
 
The 12 day thing on head injuries comes into place I think so almost definitely will be within that and unable to play….
 
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Didn't Serg say hamstring pull. Which is apparently common after a ACL..Looked like a couple of weeks to me. But I'm no expert...

As I said before mine was absolutely toast from just walking after MCL damage albeit probably not as bad as ACL surgery as it was 3 weeks after the injury, deffo likely for an elite sportsman so that’s positive it’s simply teething issues coming back from a very bad injury.
 
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ACL surgery requires using a piece of hamstring as a new replacement ACL.
MCL is insignificant as it heals itself, LCL requires a new ligament graft from a donor. Very invasive and by far the worst out of the 3.
Torn meniscus was a bit of an issue as well. That period in a medieval knee brace.

Speaking from experience.

With that in mind, that’s why the hamstring is the most likely injury post ACL surgery. You have less of it than you had pre surgery.
 
ACL surgery requires using a piece of hamstring as a new replacement ACL.
MCL is insignificant as it heals itself, LCL requires a new ligament graft from a donor. Very invasive and by far the worst out of the 3.
Torn meniscus was a bit of an issue as well. That period in a medieval knee brace.

Speaking from experience.

With that in mind, that’s why the hamstring is the most likely injury post ACL surgery. You have less of it than you had pre surgery.

I think there are different methods of surgery for an ACL. Liam Millar talked through them on a 1904 Club episode a while ago. He said that he had the most invasive option of the three main options, which has the longest recovery but also in his case offered the best long-term prospects which is why he had that one. If I remember right, the one he had used the patellar tendon rather than a hamstring.
 
ACL surgery requires using a piece of hamstring as a new replacement ACL.
MCL is insignificant as it heals itself, LCL requires a new ligament graft from a donor. Very invasive and by far the worst out of the 3.
Torn meniscus was a bit of an issue as well. That period in a medieval knee brace.

Speaking from experience.

With that in mind, that’s why the hamstring is the most likely injury post ACL surgery. You have less of it than you had pre surgery.

thanks for this, I didn’t know that!
 
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I think there are different methods of surgery for an ACL. Liam Millar talked through them on a 1904 Club episode a while ago. He said that he had the most invasive option of the three main options, which has the longest recovery but also in his case offered the best long-term prospects which is why he had that one. If I remember right, the one he had used the patellar tendon rather than a hamstring.
Possibly. I didn’t think the patellar was still widely used. That’s the old school way. My Brother in law had the patellar tendon repair his ACL many years ago. He’s had nothing but issues with his. Mind you, mines the same with the hamstring option.
 
Possibly. I didn’t think the patellar was still widely used. That’s the old school way. My Brother in law had the patellar tendon repair his ACL many years ago. He’s had nothing but issues with his. Mind you, mines the same with the hamstring option.

From what LM said, it depends on the nature of the damage. His was apparently a lot more severe than Belloumi's.
 
I had my left ACL reconstructed in 1991 with one of my 4 left hamstrings - so only have 3 now. I was lucky in that the surgeon in the NHS area I lived in London was the leading UK knee surgeon at the time, a bloke called John Ireland, who pioneered hamstring grafts after the carbon implants (Gazza had a carbon implant when he did his in against Forest in the FA Cup Final) started causing a lot of problems including rejection. The guy in the bed next to me was having his carbon implant out as it was causing too many problems. My surgery was part of a trial back then and I had to be accepted onto it. It then became commonplace as a technique.

I had my right ACL reconstructed in 2001 using the middle third of my patella tendon, different surgeon, Brit expat living in Canada. Point of note is that they use the middle third to maintain stability in the patella as it's still balanced.

Both outcomes were good and I kept on playing football for another ten years or so until the rest of my body started giving up!

I don't wish the rehab on anyone!!
 
From what LM said, it depends on the nature of the damage. His was apparently a lot more severe than Belloumi's.

I might be misremembering but Millar’s injury (and Matazo’s for that matter) was due to them to twisting their knee at an unnatural angle whereas Belloumi’s looked like the Oxford player kicked his knee.
 
I think there are different methods of surgery for an ACL. Liam Millar talked through them on a 1904 Club episode a while ago. He said that he had the most invasive option of the three main options, which has the longest recovery but also in his case offered the best long-term prospects which is why he had that one. If I remember right, the one he had used the patellar tendon rather than a hamstring.
That is correct. I have done acl reconstruction on both knees one in 2003 and the other in 2006.

My surgeon specialized in patellar tendons but others offered hamstring or allograft (organ donor). I went with patellar tendon as it offered the strongest replacement even though it was the hardest recovery.

Both have held up well with no need for replacement after 20 odd years