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Need to do something about the reluctance of refs to overturn VAR. They should get no slow mo replays and just 30 seconds. If they are not 100% they got it wrong they have to stick to their decision.
 
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We should be training refs to be more confident in their on-field instincts and their understanding of the rules and using VAR as a support tool to improve those skills - but currently it's going the other way.

At the moment they can make a poor decision and VAR will compensate for it or worse VAR is removing the responsibility for making a decision at all.

Look at rugby where the ref's decision is final unless the video ref can see something clear and obvious that the ref didn't see that should impact the decision OR the ref specifically asks "is there anything that stops me keeping my decision" and in a lot of cases the games doesn't stop for the wait. It carries on and the video ref goes "hang on a minute - we've seen this that would change that last one"
 
There’s only one thing I hate more than diving, and that’s the rugby vs football debate. It almost always stems from rugby fans (not saying this re your wife, just generally!) who are basically jealous that football is ten times more popular. It also has very thinly veiled snobbery attached. They’re two different sports entirely. About as relevant as comparing hockey and tennis behaviours.
The mindset of rugby union players and fans is instilled into them at a young age, in a good way.
I’ve mentioned before that I have spent some time in the past watching lower level RFU and the comparison with football is like comparing chalk with cheese.
Clubhouses have code of conduct posters on the wall that are policed by the fans themselves and when you see a 50+ year old man say to a young referee “I think you got that decision wrong”, followed by the inclusion of the word “Sir”, not in a sarcastic way, it’s a breathe of fresh air.
I love how different it is, tbh.
 
The mindset of rugby union players and fans is instilled into them at a young age, in a good way.
I’ve mentioned before that I have spent some time in the past watching lower level RFU and the comparison with football is like comparing chalk with cheese.
Clubhouses have code of conduct posters on the wall that are policed by the fans themselves and when you see a 50+ year old man say to a young referee “I think you got that decision wrong”, followed by the inclusion of the word “Sir”, not in a sarcastic way, it’s a breathe of fresh air.
I love how different it is, tbh.
The one single rule from rugby I would love to see in football is the 10 yard (metre) rule for dissent. Any backchat and the penalty is moved up the pitch.
 
The mindset of rugby union players and fans is instilled into them at a young age, in a good way.
I’ve mentioned before that I have spent some time in the past watching lower level RFU and the comparison with football is like comparing chalk with cheese.
Clubhouses have code of conduct posters on the wall that are policed by the fans themselves and when you see a 50+ year old man say to a young referee “I think you got that decision wrong”, followed by the inclusion of the word “Sir”, not in a sarcastic way, it’s a breathe of fresh air.
I love how different it is, tbh.

Absolutely. But there’s an underlying theme when rugby fans slight football and its fans. As I say, two different sports. They’d be better off moaning about NFL, but then they wouldn’t be able to have the undercurrent of social superiority.
 
The one single rule from rugby I would love to see in football is the 10 yard (metre) rule for dissent. Any backchat and the penalty is moved up the pitch.

I think they did try that. But like a number of new initiatives it was enforced to start, and then less and less before it was decided it didn't work and we reverted back to what didn't work before that.
 
Good results earlier today. Forest have gone BIG (overly BIG?) in the market again. +£100m on the bench, so it was nice to see a 0-3 home defeat dished out. I noticed as soon as Matty left the field late on, the goals flew in!