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Reform is led by Farage who told us Brexit would stop immigration when the experts at the time told us it would make the problem a lot worse. Farage or the experts were wrong, you tell me who?

I get we all want to see robust immigration so Why would you believe a man who lied to you and played a pivotal role to give you the very thing you don’t want.

Reform are backed by billionaire non doms influencing GB News and social media which quite frankly the Labour Party don’t have. The end game for these people is massively reducing the state. You want hope to won’t need the nhs and the like if these ****s get any real power.
Starmer said he would bust the small boats gang, has he lied?, so all political parties are funded by angels?
 
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That's the whole problem, like you said we need a robust . However countless governments have continually failed to do that. Although it would horrendous if he got in, people will look at the alternatives if they keep failing.
People should be proud to be British, without having to worry about upsetting people for being proud
This government has only been in power a year and inherited the clusterfk from the Tories and Brexit where experts told us what would happen.

The extra staff and resources this government have thrown at the problem will hopefully start to have an effect. It’s a shame the right wing Brexit loons didn’t focus as much on the total mismanagement of the Tories over the 8 years since Brexit which saw immigration go through the roof.

Putting your Trust in Farage who gave you Brexit, contributing mass Ito record immigration is a bit daft imho.
 
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Reform is led by Farage who told us Brexit would stop immigration when the experts at the time told us it would make the problem a lot worse. Farage or the experts were wrong, you tell me who?

I get we all want to see robust immigration so Why would you believe a man who lied to you and played a pivotal role to give you the very thing you don’t want.

Reform are backed by billionaire non doms influencing GB News and social media which quite frankly the Labour Party don’t have. The end game for these people is massively reducing the state. You want hope to won’t need the nhs and the like if these ****s get any real power.
The main point I’m making is why do YOU think you make rational choices in politics and people who don’t vote the same are gullible,is that not arrogant,small minded and in a way fascist
 
I’m not asking you what the answer is not.
The answer is not voting for Brexit and not listening to experts but we are where we are and the answer now is putting proper resources into tackling the problem which this government is doing. This can’t be changed overnight whatever Farage and GB News tell you.

This government inherited the problem of the rights making.
 
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The main point I’m making is why do YOU think you make rational choices in politics and people who don’t vote the same are gullible,is that not arrogant,small minded and in a way fascist
I appreciate immigration is a problem. But it’s not this governments making (Farage, Tory mismanagement and Brexit) but of course they need to sort it out.

Why aware all these billionaires chucking fortunes to influence your opinion?

They want smaller government and lesss taxes. When we have lost valuable public services and the nhs then the working class gullible may wake up, people backing Reform are being played like a fiddle by Farage and his billionaire backers.

There certainly is a **** in British politics and it certainly isn’t Starmer.
 
I haven’t saw one person support Farage on this Forum.
I think we know where some of the loyalty lies on this thread.

We are on a Sunderland forum, look at the fantastic national coverage the city got this weekend with the fantastic regeneration that has s and is taking place.

I certainly hope as an outsider looking in this is put at risk by Sunderland people voting for Reform over immigration which Reforms leader is massively responsible for. I hope Sunderland people can’t be that stupid.
 
I appreciate immigration is a problem. But it’s not this governments making (Farage, Tory mismanagement and Brexit) but of course they need to sort it out.

Why aware all these billionaires chucking fortunes to influence your opinion?

They want smaller government and lesss taxes. When we have lost valuable public services and the nhs then the working class gullible may wake up, people backing Reform are being played like a fiddle by Farage and his billionaire backers.

There certainly is a **** in British politics and it certainly isn’t Starmer.
No Billionaires will influence my decisions marra trust me,I’m in my middle sixties and seen life and lived through endless incompetent politicians and their corrupt governments,nowt changes for the working man,so no don’t think I’m gullible or fooled by anyone especially the “working man’s Labour Party “
 
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I think we know where some of the loyalty lies on this thread.

We are on a Sunderland forum, look at the fantastic national coverage the city got this weekend with the fantastic regeneration that has s and is taking place.

I certainly hope as an outsider looking in this is put at risk by Sunderland people voting for Reform over immigration which Reforms leader is massively responsible for. I hope Sunderland people can’t be that stupid.
There you go again,calling people who don’t vote like yourself
Fascist
 
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No Billionaires will influence my decisions marra trust me,I’m in my middle sixties and seen life and lived through endless incompetent politicians and their corrupt governments,nowt changes for the working man,so no don’t think I’m gullible or fooled by anyone especially the “working man’s Labour Party “
Well if you are voting Reform, you have been. If you are in your sixties careful what you wish for when the nhs is gone.

The Labour Party have targeted rich pensioners and rich farmers to tackle the black hole left by the Tories. I’m all for that.
 
There you go again,calling people who don’t vote like yourself
Fascist
:) you don’t like facts Vic. The billionaire non doms have certainly influenced you whether you admit it or not.

as an old bloke you will likely need the nhs. Don’t complain when Farage has dismantled it if the **** gets power.
 
No Billionaires will influence my decisions marra trust me,I’m in my middle sixties and seen life and lived through endless incompetent politicians and their corrupt governments,nowt changes for the working man,so no don’t think I’m gullible or fooled by anyone especially the “working man’s Labour Party “
They fund the reform campaign mate. To be fair every campaign but the net zero policy is purely from being funded by fossil fuel companies. They funded the Brexit campaign. Everything that hits your inbox is paid for by them. You choose those policies including those that cut their own taxes, they’ve swayed you with their cash.
 
They fund the reform campaign mate. To be fair every campaign but the net zero policy is purely from being funded by fossil fuel companies. They funded the Brexit campaign. Everything that hits your inbox is paid for by them. You choose those policies including those that cut their own taxes, they’ve swayed you with their cash.
No one sways me marra
 
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