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Nads said:
He’s already seeing it.

120k shirts sold already. Madness.

10k waiting list. Madness.

Half mile queues at club shop. Madness.

And this is while we still expect a relegation battle.

I have seen the increase in Sunderland shirts all over Shields and all over Sunderland last few weeks.

Even the little corner of our earth that is this forum. It never ends on here now, never.

Those of us that been in here for the last 15 years or so will know that’s not been the case, even when we were PL before the fall.

The club is growing, buzzing, thriving. For the first time in my life the city is too.

It’s a perfect marriage with an owner who sees it and this is just the first blowing of a Tsunami.

We aren’t Liverpool, United or Arsenal.

We Are Sunderland. We were always proud of it. We just needed to rest, reset and go again.
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That should be a sticky.

What a brilliant post mate
 
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rowley said:
Yes we did. Three teenagers in the final though, and one a teenager a fortnight before it . Others very young too. We were miles off the top two, who themselves were way short of PL quality. It was a remarkable promotion.

But Bournemouth have been in the league a little while now. They sold £150m worth of players this summer, so their circumstances are rather different. Nothing more I'd like to see than a team full or near full of English players, but that is almost unheard of in the PL now. Liverpool often have only one or two.

Apart from the two who have left, and who wanted to leave, all the English players who featured well for us last season are here, and apart from two, all have committed, by contract, to staying. Most will emerge and many will get to grips with the league. But they needed substantial help, and clearly, buying in Europe is tenable, whereas buying here is clearly mostly not. And just as clearly, sending that team without help into the PL would have been an outright massacre.
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Dont get me wrong mate. At no point have I ever felt we should go into the prem with the team or squad that got promoted. Not for one minute.

I am also not suggesting we have signed poorly. By anybody's yardstick we have done some really smart business. And in Xjaka, Diarra and Alderrete we have punched higher than I thought we could. All credit to the staff. Despite what folk may think of my opinions, I dont even think taking the captaincy off Neil for Xhaka can be at all scrutinised (even if Neil were on a new deal). I applaud so much of what we have done.

I have differing opinions to some on what we might have done. I do think we could have looked in the English market to retain a core of Englishmen in the first 11. That is important to me as a supporter personally. I am talking 1 or 2, not 4 or 5. I do worry we may have got the balance in the attacking 3rd wrong and that foregoing a 10 may hurt us. But these are just opinions of mine.

I have an inkling you and I have both seen some big highs and some terrible lows. I think last season was an incredible high. If I seem reticent about the current direction of travel it is probably because I am yet to finish my celebration of what those lads acheived. I am not going to get chance to do so it seems. Football seems so ruthless rhese days. What I felt last season surpassed so many of the highs for me. It was truly astonishing. Academy lads galore, lads giving everything, bandaged up players scoring winners, a local lad being a local hero. We wont replicate that, and had we left it as was we may well have done their achievement a disservice. I do though, find it a little disrespectful, when I see (for example) teamsheets being posted without Ballard because we are linked with somebody new today. Maybe this is the modern world and I need to get over myself. But I do wish a bit more respect for what was achieved last year was still shown. Class comments from Xhaka about not being here if it wasnt for last years lads.

Anyway, rambling. Four days on the golf course, in the sun, talking about playing memories of 35 years ago has got me hot and bothered I think. On a side note, a lad I have golfed with was my captain for a couple of years. I reckon even Granit would have given him the armband - unbelievable leader on a pitch. (I took his money twice though :1980_boogie_down:)Apols - a couple of cold ones already supped mate.

PS - hope I dont come across as arguing with you, I love reading your posts, even when we are at odds.
 
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Nads said:
Rigg without question will step up.

We mustn’t forget how elite this lad is, ceiling wise.

Watch the club videos and this essential child is a massive and vocal part of this squad of grown, pro athlete men.

He takes the piss out of them, he supports them and he takes the ribbings he gets back.

The club usually pan to him on the videos, the club fully know what we have.

It’s not too far fetched to think a Rigg sale in a year or 2 clears out the net spend of this window.
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I still maintain he will be our in our 1st choice midfield by Christmas.
 
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Nads said:
He’s already seeing it.

120k shirts sold already. Madness.

10k waiting list. Madness.

Half mile queues at club shop. Madness.

And this is while we still expect a relegation battle.

I have seen the increase in Sunderland shirts all over Shields and all over Sunderland last few weeks.

Even the little corner of our earth that is this forum. It never ends on here now, never.

Those of us that been in here for the last 15 years or so will know that’s not been the case, even when we were PL before the fall.

The club is growing, buzzing, thriving. For the first time in my life the city is too.

It’s a perfect marriage with an owner who sees it and this is just the first blowing of a Tsunami.

We aren’t Liverpool, United or Arsenal.

We Are Sunderland. We were always proud of it. We just needed to rest, reset and go again.
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10k waiting list for what mate?

Not doubting or owt just dunno if ya meaning shirts or tickets?
 
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FellTop said:
Dont get me wrong mate. At no point have I ever felt we should go into the prem with the team or squad that got promoted. Not for one minute.

I am also not suggesting we have signed poorly. By anybody's yardstick we have done some really smart business. And in Xjaka, Diarra and Alderrete we have punched higher than I thought we could. All credit to the staff. Despite what folk may think of my opinions, I dont even think taking the captaincy off Neil for Xhaka can be at all scrutinised (even if Neil were on a new deal). I applaud so much of what we have done.

I have differing opinions to some on what we might have done. I do think we could have looked in the English market to retain a core of Englishmen in the first 11. That is important to me as a supporter personally. I am talking 1 or 2, not 4 or 5. I do worry we may have got the balance in the attacking 3rd wrong and that foregoing a 10 may hurt us. But these are just opinions of mine.

I have an inkling you and I have both seen some big highs and some terrible lows. I think last season was an incredible high. If I seem reticent about the current direction of travel it is probably because I am yet to finish my celebration of what those lads acheived. I am not going to get chance to do so it seems. Football seems so ruthless rhese days. What I felt last season surpassed so many of the highs for me. It was truly astonishing. Academy lads galore, lads giving everything, bandaged up players scoring winners, a local lad being a local hero. We wont replicate that, and had we left it as was we may well have done their achievement a disservice. I do though, find it a little disrespectful, when I see (for example) teamsheets being posted without Ballard because we are linked with somebody new today. Maybe this is the modern world and I need to get over myself. But I do wish a bit more respect for what was achieved last year was still shown. Class comments from Xhaka about not being here if it wasnt for last years lads.

Anyway, rambling. Four days on the golf course, in the sun, talking about playing memories of 35 years ago has got me hot and bothered I think. On a side note, a lad I have golfed with was my captain for a couple of years. I reckon even Granit would have given him the armband - unbelievable leader on a pitch. (I took his money twice though :1980_boogie_down:)Apols - a couple of cold ones already supped mate.

PS - hope I dont come across as arguing with you, I love reading your posts, even when we are at odds.
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Great post.

Question from me is can we afford a 10?

The usual 10 is more an attacking role, with limited defensive duties. Would we be better with a more solid midfield 3?
 
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Anyone know if we sell bloody or punt him to the moon does that number become free or can it not be used again this season
Cause he’s currently a very important number
 
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