Election 2024

[PINKIE]

I think people have just become tired of their toletance being abused. I think putting people in hotels was a really bad idea all started by the Tories. We are coming into the back end of summer now, hotel prices are expensive this time of year for stay at home holidaymakers, it becomes noticable then that the hotels are occupied by other visitors. Hotels are even shutting restaurants to build more rooms, I think it's something Whitbread is projected to do, might be others, but I see that as milking the situation. We need to find other ways, local hotels is not the answer and is seen as not acceptable, speaking generally.

Yeah, the issue with using hotels is a bit like what I saw when they used to use them to house people with long term mental health / homelessness issues. i.e It was occupancy for what were run down establishments where private owners could charge the govt vastly inflated sums of money for. I saw this with my own eyes as it was an area that I was involved with from the homelessness side of things. Like you say, it then has a knock on effect for the rest of the hospitality sector.

As for processing migrants. It's an area that we've largely neglected to fund in terms of where to put them, and the numbers of staff both to process asylum claims and in terms of border force / security to stop people from making the journeys in the first place. So we've ended up in a situation where we now have people coming here and we can't sort out the genuine claims from those who come here for economic reasons.

 

[brb]

^^^^^

re Hotels

... guaranteed year round occupancy - further lining the pockets (ultimately) of some already very wealthy individuals ...

Such hotels should be used to subsidis genuine homeless with families the priority..

We should have refurbished (securitised) redundant military camps, ramped up numbers of staff processing asylum applications and kept all seekers within those institutions (adequately fed and watered) until decision made...

But that would have required investment - much less money than we are now having to spend - but no licence to print money for some with 'vested interests'...

Facial recognition for all applicants so that failed repeat seekers are rapidly identified.

No paperwork? - stricter check including DNA etc to establish age, ethnicity etc.

Extensive Database built...

Successful applicants allowed into society - unsuccessful deported to point of origin.

If you ramp up the machine it operates faster - simple physics...

Vote Fosse ...

We gave France over £500M for border control for a three year period, and probably substantial other amounts. It cost according to AI £5M to build a basic 100 bed hotel. We could probably do them cheaper, if not regarded as actual hotels to a basic standard to house homeless and migrants being processed.

We spend £5.77M per day and that figure is down, to house migrants in hotels. You do the sums mate, you're an accountant, it seems total madness the way we are going about this.

The barracks now are dead ducks, but nothing stopping us building our own residences for those in need, within the budget that is being splashed about. Money given to hotel chains is money down the drain to Tory mates, make compulsory orders to get the money invested in our own residencies, which will always keep their value.

Stop using hotels is my argument and set up and build properly residence accomodation for those in need, and stop taking short cuts to the easiest methods.

 

[brb]

I agree that undocumented men coming here is a problem.

But what I'm talking about is the fall out that Luv is talking about, where you now have communities that are scared of each other, because we've allowed nobodies on social media to tell us that everybody who isn't like us is our enemy

You have to address concerns and why people feel like that, some areas are probably suffering Tory depravation, you need to improve their lifestyle, their job opportunities, you need to educate them, you don't do that by winding them up and calling people far right.

This is social media, It don't help when people like yourself chose to mock others, all you do is encourage more racism. You might claim you are defending against racism, but poking people albeit for fun actually is generating more hate.

I see it on GC, material I hate to see, you enjoy poking them, that means this site then gets bombarded with more hate. You are a contributing factor to the problem, albeit playfully. The problem will not go away just because you don't post on there, but at least it helps me better to guage what is going on.

At some point we are going to get in trouble for this ****. In all honesty, I'd rather you not stoke that fire and stay here.

Edit: @PINKIE sorry I thought I was replying to Fosse.

 

[Gessa]

I agree that undocumented men coming here is a problem.

But what I'm talking about is the fall out that Luv is talking about, where you now have communities that are scared of each other, because we've allowed nobodies on social media to tell us that everybody who isn't like us is our enemy

After working i Birmingham, Coventry, Walsall and Wolverhampton thru the 70's to earlyb2000's, I can assure you this isnt a new thing, its always been like that, I've had customers from all nationalities and a good % of each aren't as tolerant to others as you'd like to think. Some of the things I've had said to me still stick in my head now after all these years, when these type of conversations pop up

 

[Saf]

After working i Birmingham, Coventry, Walsall and Wolverhampton thru the 70's to earlyb2000's, I can assure you this isnt a new thing, its always been like that, I've had customers from all nationalities and a good % of each aren't as tolerant to others as you'd like to think. Some of the things I've had said to me still stick in my head now after all these years, when these conversations pop up

Yep. It’s the same for all communities and boils my piss when people imply or even say directly that it’s a white British problem that folk have with different nationalities and skin colours.

I was told by my Mother many years ago, she was a woman who was a housing manager for the council, that she was there for a problem guy who was looking for housing in the area and when shown around and offered a property, he said to his mate ‘too white’, he was talking about the street/estate where this property is.

It really does work both ways.

 

[Sucky]

any illegals near you mate in local hotels, how are the neighbours taking it?

https://paywallbuster.com/

 

[PINKIE]

After working i Birmingham, Coventry, Walsall and Wolverhampton thru the 70's to earlyb2000's, I can assure you this isnt a new thing, its always been like that, I've had customers from all nationalities and a good % of each aren't as tolerant to others as you'd like to think. Some of the things I've had said to me still stick in my head now after all these years, when these type of conversations pop up

I grew up in South London, in amongst people from Africa, Caribbean, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India etc and I agree it's not a new thing. The racism swang both ways. But I think with the advent of social media, it's got a lot worse because now you have huge swathes of people who only get their information from the internet and some don't even bother to talk to people other than those in their own communities.

The algorithms feed people more and more of this inflammatory stuff and there's no counter to give people another side of the story. I've literally just been talking to a mate of mine this morning who now thinks she's an expert in Islamic politics because of a instagram channel she's been following and she thinks there's going to be an Islamic revolution in the UK like there was in Iran. She's never even spoken to a Muslim in her life....

 

[Sucky]

Somebody made a comment on here the other day about social cohesion being at an all time low. And it was made in context that its because of all of the immigrants who are taking over the country. But I would argue that it's because of the incessant fearmongering on social media and the politicians who want to exploit the fear for their own gain that is spreading this division.

Like you say, you now have people who are scared to talk to people because of the colour of their skin. What has happened to us ? We've always been a tolerant and inclusive nation and we've always valued people for who they are regardless of where they come from.

But you now have people like Sucky, who is convinced that every Muslim is a terrorist who wants to cut your head off.

Madness

Can't blame me for that bro wherever Muslims are heads get cut off an people get blown up.

Am I wrong?

 

[PINKIE]

Can't blame me for that bro wherever Muslims are heads get cut off an people get blown up.

Am I wrong?

Yes

 

[Sucky]

We gave France over £500M for border control for a three year period, and probably substantial other amounts. It cost according to AI £5M to build a basic 100 bed hotel. We could probably do them cheaper, if not regarded as actual hotels to a basic standard to house homeless and migrants being processed.

We spend £5.77M per day and that figure is down, to house migrants in hotels. You do the sums mate, you're an accountant, it seems total madness the way we are going about this.

The barracks now are dead ducks, but nothing stopping us building our own residences for those in need, within the budget that is being splashed about. Money given to hotel chains is money down the drain to Tory mates, make compulsory orders to get the money invested in our own residencies, which will always keep their value.

Stop using hotels is my argument and set up and build properly residence accomodation for those in need, and stop taking short cuts to the easiest methods.

We gave France over 500m to control our borders.

Because we don't have a navy or armed forces for that.

 

[Sucky]

Yes

K den

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Thier book literally tell them to kill us in the name of thier prophet, a murdering **** no less.

Am i wrong?

 

[PINKIE]

K den

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Thier book literally tell them to kill us in the name of thier prophet, a murdering **** no less.

Am i wrong?

You said 'Wherever Muslims are heads get chopped off and people get blown up. Am I wrong ?'

And yes, you are wrong.

 

[FosseFilberto]

We gave France over £500M for border control for a three year period, and probably substantial other amounts. It cost according to AI £5M to build a basic 100 bed hotel. We could probably do them cheaper, if not regarded as actual hotels to a basic standard to house homeless and migrants being processed.

We spend £5.77M per day and that figure is down, to house migrants in hotels. You do the sums mate, you're an accountant, it seems total madness the way we are going about this.

The barracks now are dead ducks, but nothing stopping us building our own residences for those in need, within the budget that is being splashed about. Money given to hotel chains is money down the drain to Tory mates, make compulsory orders to get the money invested in our own residencies, which will always keep their value.

Stop using hotels is my argument and set up and build properly residence accomodation for those in need, and stop taking short cuts to the easiest methods.

We spent circa £240 million on the daft, aborted, Rwanda scheme ... the ongoing costs of operation of that, if we had proceeded with it, would have been astronomical ... and with no guarantee that those sent there wouldn't be entitled to return to the UK (at our cost) if their claims / appeals were successful ... and the projected cost per individual sent there? ... circa £150k!! ...

In terms of the cash analysis ... the cost of sending one fully loaded Boeing 777-300ER to Rwanda would have cost the British taxpayer £82.5 million ... or,, using your numbers, the equivalent of building 16 hotels ...

 

[Sucky]

You said 'Wherever Muslims are heads get chopped off and people get blown up. Am I wrong ?'

And yes, you are wrong.

No I'm not.

Youre simply deluded and In denial mate.

Ever heard of jihad? Lee rigby? Manchester bombings? Westminster Bridge? 7/7? Southport?

Fool

 

[PINKIE]

K den

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Thier book literally tell them to kill us in the name of thier prophet, a murdering **** no less.

Am i wrong?

That David Atherton has got an AI video of Winston Churchill and Tommy Robinson dancing together.

One fought against Fascism, the other is a Fascist.

That tells you everything you need to know about that account

 

[PINKIE]

No I'm not.

Youre simply deluded and In denial mate.

Ever heard of jihad? Lee rigby? Manchester bombings? Westminster Bridge? 7/7? Southport?

Fool

You've been brainwashed into thinking every Muslim wants to cut your head off

Weak minded and gullible.

 

[Sucky]

That David Atherton has got an AI video of Winston Churchill and Tommy Robinson dancing together.

One fought against Fascism, the other is a Fascist.

That tells you everything you need to know about that account

So thier book tells them to kill us.

But the important bit to you is whatever twitter account I've posted from.

Facts are facts regardless of source

 

[Sucky]

You've been brainwashed into thinking every Muslim wants to cut your head off

Weak minded and gullible.

So thier book doesn't tell them to kill us and they are not responsible for the list of terror attacks I just posted.


Lolz

 

[PINKIE]

So thier book tells them to kill us.

But the important bit to you is whatever twitter account I've posted from.

Facts are facts regardless of source

Slurps has already explained the first part to you, on more than one occasion.

You think it's a fact that 'everywhere there are muslims, heads are getting chopped off'

This shows how far removed from facts and how brainwashed you actually are.

 

[Sucky]

We spent circa £240 million on the daft, aborted, Rwanda scheme ... the ongoing costs of operation of that, if we had proceeded with it, would have been astronomical ... and with no guarantee that those sent there wouldn't be entitled to return to the UK (at our cost) if their claims / appeals were successful ... and the projected cost per individual sent there? ... circa £150k!! ...

It's up to 12m a day on hotels now.