Off Topic JULY 4th 2024 6 months JAN 2025 ..chaos+ more fibs +roughshod attitudes+backtracking +++ C R A S H++

Never here Kier will sort it out

 

yep .. but first he will have to determine whether they are male or female or a bit of both!

 

So the one half decent policy that Labour have which is the bill to cut welfare payments to those who are quite capable of getting off their fat lazy arses and working for a living. will either be watered down, or postponed, given that never here Kier would face an overwhelming defeat, with over 120 Labour PMs preparing to vote against it
What a farce and yet another u turn coming up
He needs to be careful before he gets a reputation for changing his mind

 

In a few days Keir Starmer will mark his first year in office but no one will be celebrating. It seemed so easy in opposition. All he had to do was not be one of those evil Tories he despised so much. But it turns out governing is hard and the attacks he levelled at the Conservatives have since been turned on him.

The anger in the country over his failings is palpable. A detailed seat-by-seat poll found Labour would lose 233 seats if an election was held tomorrow. He has amassed more nicknames than all the Tory leaders he has faced put together. 'Two-Tier Keir', 'Never Here Keir', 'Free Gear Keir', 'Sir Flip Flop', the 'Farmer Harmer', 'Sir Kid Starver' 'Granny Harmer' and so on.
In the last 12 months the list of people he has angered includes rape gang victims, pensioners, parents, small business owners, farmers, fishermen, people with disabilities, Brexiteers, the Chagossians and, last but not least, Labour MPs. He is currently on his third U-turn in five weeks. It is not a sign of weakness to alter your course if the situation has changed, but three cavernous climbdowns in just over a month shows just how badly this government is being run.

"ANUS MORONICUS" must surely be a "latin" handle to describe him!
Surely, no politician can be daft enough to take a payment helping people to heat their homes off 10 million pensioners can they? ....................
Turns out he and his hapless sidekick Rattlesnake Rachel were. It took them ten months to come to their senses.
Just a couple of weeks later, Starmer announced he would order a national inquiry in the grooming gangs, or more correctly, child rape gangs, after previously insisting it was not necessary.
Then this week he was forced into a humiliating reversal over welfare reforms, not for ideological reasons, but because even with an enormous majority his own backbenchers revolted.

The small boats crisis is getting worse despite Starmer's election slogan promising to 'smash the gangs'. As crossings continued to increase earlier this month, one illegal migrant was entering the country every five minutes. . Starmer gave a big speech promising to bring down migration by 2029.

But now the PM has admitted what we knew all along - he was just parroting someone else's words when he gave the address.
In an interview with the Observer, Starmer said he "deeply regrets" warning that Britain would become an "island of strangers". "I wouldn't have used those words if I had known they were, or even would be interpreted as, an echo of Powell," he said. "I had no idea - and my speechwriters didn't know either. But that particular phrase - no, it wasn't right. I'll give you the honest truth - I deeply regret using it."

uuuum I WONDER if also regrets ever saying all those things he said in opposition .. mostly slagging off's instead of having an alernative working plan! ............. I feel sorry for his wife and kids having to go through the shame of a person who is so self egoistic he doesnt think beyond the end of nose!

 

Starmers recent island of strangers’ comment which of course he’s backtracked and u turned on is correct

The vile anti Israel chants and Bob Vylan group at Glastonbury need to be dealt with severely and the BBC (again) have been found wanting for screening their hate speech against one of our allies without a time delay.

The people who broke into Brize Norton need to be jailed for a long long time and anyone else found breaking into our military bases need to be shot on sight, no questions asked

Millions of people in this country absolutely hate us and what we stand for. A self inflicted wound by successive passive Governments who have stood by while wrong uns enter the country and are free to roam about.

Let’s see how they like being rounded up and jailed as true criminals who are basically carrying out treason, or better still deported

 

apparently the fench have a new tactic they allow the boats to be inflated then stab them with holes? Also on a couple of occassions are now locating the illegal temporary camp sites where they gather and move them on back in land away from the coast ............. only 1 crossing since the 21st

FRIDAY IS 1 year since last GE a capitulation of Tory voters who allowed the Labour a landslide victory... albeit with a GE that saw over 8million below average vote.......and we have had to suffer the consequences...
at least I voted but not for any of top 4 who recieved votes.........................

 

The Tories are to blame for the current position and this current bunch of clueless idiots being in charge, by not running the country and all of its component parts properly for years before 2024.

Traditional Tory voters turned their backs on what they stood for at the last election because the party had drifted to the centre and liberalism, not true Conservative values.

The Tory party are the main reason that we’re in this mess with Labour now, and they’ve no one to blame but themselves

 

How will the justice system under 2tierKier deal with Bob Vylan.
Lucy Connelly is serving a 31month sentence for a tweet.
Under 2tier you never know what he'll say or do.......then U-turn the day after.
Those flaming Tories have a lot to answer for, while the lefty BBC in all this are a laughing stock.

Is it any wonder why Reform is polling so well.

 

Likewise
I have never voted Labour in my life, and I never will

The point being that as a party the Tories were in total disarray with 3 Prime Ministers from z019-2024, and wide open borders to legal and illegal migration, so I voted Reform last year.

I, like millions of others will continue to vote for Nigel Farage and see if the likes of Jenrick jump ship.

The worse possible scenario is a hung parliament next time around with no overall majority

 

Given Bob Vylan broadcast his message of hate on national television, and is still unrepentant about it today, I think a jail term of about 5 years or more would be fair.

But with lefty and woke judges, and the anti UK Attorney General, Starmers mate in charge, he’ll probably get an OBE instead !

As for the BBC, they are nothing but a lefty propaganda machine and should be dissolved. They spread more misinformation and out and out lies than anyone.

 

I truly respect your view above, as it is on the face of of it .... lets say half correct! I do tend to read a lot between the hours of 2200 to past midnight as XYL has a 2 hour catch up on on TV recordings...

WE blamed 2tier Granny Harmer for being the king of the castle for his championing hindsight .. but it does have its advantages ... not for him but for historians /analysis bods who are able to to proceed with analytical dissections of all that has passed!!!!

they disseminate facts and verify, and my interest is the backbone of the past 16 years.. yea 16 years [ actually goes back to make it 17 /18 years in some interpretations ] is that when you blend in the mitigating circumstances the picture is "quite" different than is painted !!!!!!!!!!!

there is basically 5 different "interferences" [ for lack of a better word ] since 2009. 2024/2025 is still in the vat being "swirled!" BUT ALREADY these historians/.analysis bods have segregated at least 4 -6 different aspects ... simply put " fibbing" lack of "thought" lack of "planning" "incompetent individuals" [ basically down to pre GE LOYALTY!!!! ] and "INABILITY" to accept that outgoing .GOV was doing fine [ interest/ inflation /growth / taxation / were all fine AND most agree "in hindsight there was not a blackhole" . a lot of basis to that was you can not determine that in first couple of weeks. In fact 1 opinion was that if there was a GE TOMORROW there could be a case made out there is a massive Blackhole of many £bn's as the fiscal year has only just commenced [ 3 month's ]

note
ADDING a few £bn for the record immigration .............[cross channel ? £10bn? some figures ] would be on the face of half of what Rattlesnake Rach stated was their inheritance of a £20bn one cost of this crisis was around £5bn 12 months ago!!????

temp here just tipped 29c out of direct sun and shaded from breeze..... 42 in Spain!

 

I largely agree with you too

The country, including its political outlook, morals and behaviours have declined drastically over the last 10 years or so

We need a firm hand on the tiller, a common sense approach, and much less interference from the legal side of this, and the ECHR, to even attempt to turn things around

Unfortunately I don’t see the Tories doing this as things stand,
should they regain a Mts Thatcher stance and mean it, I might be persuaded back

 

I voted Red till I saw how the pathetic Red Robbo and other Union Barons took us to the brink in the 70s.
Then Blue till I voted Reform last time and will definitely vote the same in 4 years.
The Tories deserved their catastrophic humiliation at the last election and now, hard to believe, it's much worse under Starmer's Labour government.

Rod will tell you how simple I am but Farage is the ONLY politician that speaks for me......the rest..... I wouldn't p*ss in their mouth even if their back teeth were on fire.

 

the FIRST ANNIVERSARY ... JULY 4th 2025 ............
the interview ....................... from Nick Robinson...........

failed to back Rachael in PMQ'S and there was a crash of Bank and investment and increase of borrowing ............ my portfolio in an hour went down 5.6%!! has recovered now only - 1.7%

"really driven down the waiting lists in the NHS," .... NHS IS BACK TO NORMAL, [ pre Jan 2024 & pre strikes ] according various sources, my nursing friends say it is about what it was like before COVID........ and the the strikes!

" whether that's rolling out school uniform projects, whether it's school meals, breakfast clubs, you name it -" jury out on this as causes are due to mismanagement of the economy that have made people with less disposable income!!!

"[brought in] a huge amount of investment into the country. And of course we've been busy getting three trade deals." stated £120m investment brought in ... well ... £40m of that is Amazon expanding to meet uk need for distribution centres to bring in line with other countries. DEBATEABLE as to whether the other £80m would have come in any case!

It's clear that, given the chance, his list would go on. [ things that may have had a natural course and happened anyway ] And yet, I point out, there is another long list - of things he's recently admitted to getting wrong......................
hiring Sue Gray - Starmer's former chief of staff .......to end winter fuel payments, ..... rejecting a national grooming gang inquiry,...... cutting benefits for disabled people. That's not even the full list, yet it's quite a number of things that he's admitting to being a mistake. ..................He challenges the idea, which is prevalent in Westminster, that changing your mind represents weakness, or a "humiliating U-turn".

In truth, what matters more than anything else to him is not losing, something he tells me he hates, whether in politics or on the five-a-side pitch playing football regularly with his mates - as he still does and has done for decades.
I tell him people think he is losing now - some say he is the most unpopular prime minister since records began. He reacts with the defiance of a man whose football-playing friend recently described him as a "hard bastard".
A man who served in Jeremy Corbyn's shadow cabinet and then had him thrown out of the party; who stood to be leader on promises to keep much of Corbyn's agenda before tearing up those promises to win power; and someone who hired then fired Sue Gray as his first Downing Street chief of staff. ...
2 teir reply----- "Every challenge that's been put in front of me I've risen to, met it, and we're going to continue in the same vein," he says.

to end ............ the prime minister's message is clear to me: "Don't count me out, however bad it looks now" . To pretty much everyone other than him it currently does look bad. Very bad.

 

He is in a world of his own, it seems he just cant see there are numerous faults with his attitude to being non flexible, he has the ilk of a lawyer .... you either defend the wrong or prosecute the wrong either side hold their ground and endeavour to destroy the other......

 

Not saying I agree with the policies or not. But how can you accuse someone of flip flopping in one breath, and being inflexible in another, if someone (whoever it is) continually changes their mind (flip flops) , how can they be inflexible?.

 

inflexible in various sentences can relate to different aspects / contexts! In this case it means he is unable to see both sides of ......... before he goes headlong......... had he given thought to the other side of the argument before he made his decision he would not have been forced to "flip flop"

dont forget at one point in the past 12 month's a comment was made that maybe Rwanda should have been given a try ... before you say "where did it say that" it was in the fortnight or so where he was in negotiating with shipping the illegals off to Albania!

ALTHOUGH CANCELLING RWANDA was more of a " falling in line with this weeks interview where he stated he didnt like losing" in opposition he was always against everything got the name flip flop because when proved wrong he righted his thoughts...........

 

a really bad week for .gov leader . hard to actually apportion a correct "tag " to him. unless his kids are sealed in a bubble it must be horrifying for them to see their dad torn to shreds weekly like a rag dog in the jaws of a demented rotweiler!!!
Laura K on her weekly showdown Bridget Phillipson had no chance the Q's were sharp and pointed and she looked totally demoralised ... other guest Mel Stride was just cool calm and collected!

Ratings down and plans.....what plans? totally demolished ... well left the odd bit standing, but that is normal when things get demolished ........ 49 MP's [ labour ] voted against the welfare act fiasco to many to suspend this time but this .gov is heading for more records ... could be that it suspends more MP's than any other!

KEMI seems slowly to be getting her act together, just rolls with insults [ 2 tier & co ] directed at her...... over the couple years 2 tier was in waiting his and his opposition cabinet spent most of the time dreaming up ridicule and misdemeaners instead of working what they could whilst in power.............................. bad news always sells and this approach worked on the gullible public [ about 8 million of them any way ] they didnt bother to vote.

french trying a new method to stop the boats nets deployed fro jet ski's tangles the propellor! lethal seaweed and fishing ropes etc .........

as an aside whilst my friends were returning from a dive at Kylesku with aabout 30 8" scallopsa local fisherman happened to say " just what we need a couple divers!!" "OH SAID ONE HAVE YOU LOST A POT OR 2!" no worse a rope around the prop [ 40 foot fishing boat inboard motor ] checking air they had about 15 mins or so between them .. story short .. after 20+ mins had it freed .. thanks they said come back tomorrow and we will give you squats and prawns next day 70 + squats and just a handful of prawns duly delivered.....

....... besides puncturing the on shore / near shore 2 methods to be tried, HOWEVER, FIRST YEAR IN POWER a very successful "smash the gangs" ..really had it not been successful then would the first 12 months in power of close to 45,000 crossing been a lot more! already a record, almost 22,000 in the first 6 month's compare to the 13,004 of the first 6 months of the last year Jan -- June 2024 and almost double ... allowing for all the costs involved like wages maintenance etc the UK GOVERNMENT HAS NOW ADDED around £8,000,000,000 to our outgoing expenses that could pay for another 250,000
+ nurses or policemen .. and build at least 75 new hospitals!

 

The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) has warned that Rachel Reeves's latest U-turns on spending cuts have left Britain more vulnerable and less able to respond to future crises. The OBR published a new report on the vulnerability of the public finances, warning that the UK's debt-to-GDP ratio is set to surge from 100% today to a whopping 270% by the early 2070s.

Ms Reeves has come under fire over her handling of the economy, and recent spending U-turns on winter fuel payments and welfare. The report says the UK has been hit hard by the dual shocks of the Covid pandemic and energy crisis, and that the Government has responded "relatively generously by international standards" when spending money to bail out voters during these crises. ..... tory.gov

Even more worryingly, it argues that voters have rising expectations about what the Chancellor can and should do in response to threats. They may therefore be underprepared to deal with a government that cannot afford to introduce costly schemes like furlough or energy price bailouts.

Of 36 advanced economies measured in the report, the OBR says the UK already has the sixth-highest debt, the fifth-highest deficit, and the third-highest borrowing costs.
A Treasury spokesperson said: "We recognise the longstanding economic realities the OBR sets out in its report."
"This is why we are committed to ensuring stability in the economy through our non-negotiable fiscal rules, which have allowed us to invest in the UK to drive a decade of renewal and put more money in people's pockets."