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cini65 said:
I can post up a graph and a stats test showing significant correlation between numbers of games missed through injury and how well a team will do in that particular season. -0.591 correlation co-effiicent... which is significant down to about a 2% significance level. Interesting stuff. Possibly. I know you love facts and figures and engaging in genuine debate.

The biggest overachievers (therefore most impressive season) on this correlation are Liverpool 21/22.

The biggest underachievers (therefore least impressive season) on this correlation are City 24/25 and Arsenal 23/24.

BUT trophies are what matters and everything else is just crying.
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What would football be without percentages?
 
Libby said:
Stats and injuries. Two of my favourite subjects.

Anybody got any thoughts on amortisation or related parties?
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Or the Geo political rammifications of Bio Engineering? or perhaps you have an insight into the market economies of the Southern colonies?
 
luvgonzo said:
I don't like going into the season as favourites but I think we are? Lots could happen if City click though.
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Whichever of Arsenal, City and Liverpool has fewer total games missed through injury will win the league. Happens every year. Whether a team clicks has never been relevant.
 
cini65 said:
Meh. No-one has ever won the league with the number of days missed through injuries we had last season. Since the injury reports started to be released, the league winners have always been the title challengers who's players missed the least number of games. Every single time. And when there's been three challengers (which is admittedly rare in the prem), the team that's come second has had the second least. There's nothing subjective about it. Klopp and Pep both never won the league when they had players miss more games than their title rivals. So I'm not sure you can bash Arteta for not doing something in 24/25 that the best managers in the world have never been able to do either. The mantra of 'you just have to deal with injuries' is nonsense, because no title chasing team in the premier league has ever dealt with injuries and won the league, regardless of manager.

Arteta has to, at some point soon, win something. By the law of averages, surely we have to have a season soon where our injury levels are tolerably similar to other title challengers, and then he's got no excuse. And if our injuries are higher again, then I start to think that's also on him and his training methods and style of play. You don't have more injuries than your title challengers four years in a row just by chance. He'll have to take some sort of accountability for that.
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You famously had next to no injuries season before last and finished second
 
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cini65 said:
Whichever of Arsenal, City and Liverpool has fewer total games missed through injury will win the league. Happens every year. Whether a team clicks has never been relevant.
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Sure - lots of teams that haven't clicked have gone on to win trophies ... think it was 0.00000000000001 last time I checked ....<laugh>
 
Bumps said:
You famously had next to no injuries season before last and finished second
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I can give you objective data that shows that in 22-23, we had 92% more games missed to injury than the team who finished top and then in 23-24 we had 50% more games missed than the team who finished top. And this season we had 85% more games missed than the team who finished top. So for whichever season you're talking about by 'season before last' the premier league injury report data suggests you're wrong. However, it sounds you're sure of your own conclusions and that it's well known and 'famous' that we had no injuries so if you could provide your sources that show we had fewer games missed due to injury than City in 22/23 or 23/24 or Liverpool in 24/25 I'm up for reading them.
 
cini65 said:
I can give you objective data that shows that in 22-23, we had 92% more games missed to injury than the team who finished top and then in 23-24 we had 50% more games missed than the team who finished top. So my data suggests you're wrong. However, it sounds you're sure of your own conclusions and that it's well known and 'famous' so if you could provide your sources I'm up for reading them.
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Who missed those games though?
Is that taken into account. If it was a couple of 20 year olds who were never getting anywhere near your starting XI anyway then what difference does it make?
This season, of course, you had Saka missing for large periods, and Odegaard etc, important players.
But do these "stats" you quote take into acccount WHO is missing and not just how many?
Like if Quansah is out for a season, then Liverpool probably wont give a ****, but if Salah misses a season thats a huge hit. They are both in the senior squad but one means a heck of a lot more than the other.
 
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