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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Decent start fixture wise for Sunderland. Will need to try and get some points early.
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Reckon it's probably a conspiracy mate.
     
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  3. brb

    brb CR250

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    Might as well stick the list up:

    All times BST
    Friday, 15 August

    Liverpool v Bournemouth (20:00)
    Saturday, 16 August
    Aston Villa v Newcastle (12:30)
    Brighton v Fulham (15:00)
    Nottingham Forest v Brentford (15:00)
    Sunderland v West Ham (15:00)
    Tottenham v Burnley (15:00)
    Wolverhampton Wanderers v Manchester City (17:30)
    Sunday, 17 August
    Chelsea v Crystal Palace (14:00)
    Manchester United v Arsenal (16:30)
    Monday, 18 August
    Leeds v Everton (20:00)
     
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  4. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Completely. League and/or CL or he should go. But I can't see the board sacking him regardless though so it's only really make or break in fans' minds, not in actual reality.
     
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  5. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Not quite yet. They still need to announce which VAR rules will only apply to Arsenal in the first few games before not being applied to anyone else for the rest of the season.
     
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  6. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    Vietnam would now be American if his bone spurs hadn't been playing up, don't ya know ... <laugh>
     
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    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    3 points in the bag on match day 1
     
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  8. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    What phase is this? Six? Man got more phases than the Marvel cinematic universe, and like the MCU, his popularity is on the wane.
     
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  9. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Meh. No-one has ever won the league with the number of days missed through injuries we had last season. Since the injury reports started to be released, the league winners have always been the title challengers who's players missed the least number of games. Every single time. And when there's been three challengers (which is admittedly rare in the prem), the team that's come second has had the second least. There's nothing subjective about it. Klopp and Pep both never won the league when they had players miss more games than their title rivals. So I'm not sure you can bash Arteta for not doing something in 24/25 that the best managers in the world have never been able to do either. The mantra of 'you just have to deal with injuries' is nonsense, because no title chasing team in the premier league has ever dealt with injuries and won the league, regardless of manager.

    Arteta has to, at some point soon, win something. By the law of averages, surely we have to have a season soon where our injury levels are tolerably similar to other title challengers, and then he's got no excuse. And if our injuries are higher again, then I start to think that's also on him and his training methods and style of play. You don't have more injuries than your title challengers four years in a row just by chance. He'll have to take some sort of accountability for that.
     
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  10. brb

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    It'd be a good start for Thomas Frank.
     
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  11. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Got to play everyone anyone so **** it.
     
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  12. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Very long post that amounts to just crying.
     
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  13. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    What's my past got to do with it?
     
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    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Well that's full of crying as well so all relevant.
     
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    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    How is my 8-word post about my past full of crying?
     
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    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    A bit simple that init

    Imo when you play teams does matter due to things like form, injury list, fixture pile up, ball shape like Klopp used to say or wind factors like Klopp used to also mention as valid reasons for results being affected
     
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  17. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    I can post up a graph and a stats test showing significant correlation between numbers of games missed through injury and how well a team will do in that particular season. -0.591 correlation co-effiicent... which is significant down to about a 2% significance level. Interesting stuff. Possibly. I know you love facts and figures and engaging in genuine debate.

    The biggest overachievers (therefore most impressive season) on this correlation are Liverpool 21/22.

    The biggest underachievers (therefore least impressive season) on this correlation are City 24/25 and Arsenal 23/24.

    BUT trophies are what matters and everything else is just crying.
     
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  18. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Leeds away is not what I expected.
     
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    #statisticalcrying
     
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  20. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Stats and injuries. Two of my favourite subjects.

    Anybody got any thoughts on amortisation or related parties?
     
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