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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by WSTiger, Aug 17, 2024.

  1. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member

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    We had a squad full of PL players last season though, didn’t we?
     
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  2. tigers1970

    tigers1970 Well-Known Member

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    Yes.....but a manager who couldn't get a tune out of them!!!!
     
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  3. HCAFCHangout

    HCAFCHangout Well-Known Member

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    Apart from Delap tell us what the rest of the players have gone on to do so far?
     
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  4. Drew

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    You’ve missed the point that only Delap has had a decent season in the PL this year.
     
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  5. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    .. on the other hand,
    The gulf as we keep saying is massive, so anyone really think they'd set the PL alight? Arguably Delap has actually.
    Delap, Greaves, Philogene, Carvahlo have all played, and continued to be selected to play, plenty of games for PL clubs this season, so are by definition PL players.
    Morton has been injured for most of it hasn't he (but still made 5 cup appearances)?
    So yes, 5 PL players. Add the likes of Tufan and Seri at similar level (but other end of career).
    That's 7 at that level. Not bad for a Championship side.
    Am I missing anyone else?
     
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  6. bradymk2

    bradymk2 Well-Known Member

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    Whats your point?
     
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  7. bradymk2

    bradymk2 Well-Known Member

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    It is pretty tiring this constant rhetoric of overplaying how good the team was last season

    The one thing i will back walter up on is how difficult it is when you have so many new players
    Same with last season and january
    Its not fantasy football or ultimate team fifa ****

    Teams need time to develop together especially young players

    Realistically our team was not even close to the level of leeds or southampton last season

    Im curious where greaves goes from here
    I dont think theres much learning he can do in the champ
    Maybe ipswish will win promotion next season again
     
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  8. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    No idea actually :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  9. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

    HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) Well-Known Member

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    And on how many games last season did those 5 actually play together?

    Tufan and Seri were nowhere near Premier League players. Might as well say we’ve got a Premier League player this season in Amrabat if you’re including those two!
     
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  10. WSTiger

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    To be honest I think Hughes is better than Greaves.
     
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  11. Mckechnie Orange

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    Possibly has a higher ceiling, but it's still potential at the moment.Reminnds me a lot of Greaves a couple of years ago tbh.

    He has a raking pass and more threat from set pieces than Greaves, but he still needs to cut out some silly errors -usually gets away with them but that's what'll take him to the next level IMHO.
     
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  12. HCAFCHangout

    HCAFCHangout Well-Known Member

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    Hughes is good but this is probably a tad of recency bias. Greaves’ ability allowed us to go man to man in a lot of games defensively because he was athletically better than most championship strikers.

    I think Hughes could do that but we’ve yet to see it
     
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  13. bradymk2

    bradymk2 Well-Known Member

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    Ye
    Are we forgetting just how good greaves was last 2 seasons

    Greaves was ****ing immense beyond belief

    He's struggled in the prem against top quality players in 1 v1 but its also ipswich system leaving them so exposed
    As he goes high a lot
     
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  14. bradymk2

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    he was also absolutely a beast in the air at both ends
     
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  15. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Actually I'd say that Greaves was less of a consistent attacking threat than Hughes. None of our defenders have shown that much goal threat from set pieces in recent times.
     
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  16. bradymk2

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    Thats not true
    Plus greaves was so good at knocking the ball on inside the opposition box
     
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  17. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Not seeing it really. We have been dire at set pieces since league 1.

    Always used to drive me nuts seeing Greaves and Jones get their heads on everything coming into our box but be so powderpuff at the other end
     
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  18. bradymk2

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    He got 6 goals and 6 assists in his last two seasons with us
    Im just not sure where or how you can say hughes looks more effective at it
     
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  19. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Well he's got 1 in half a season and been unlucky a few times.

    But 3 in a season isn't really a great return is it?

    I'd usually want 5 or 6 - but maybe that's just an expectation based on oldskool, likes of Gerrard, Delaney, Dewhurst etc.

    Maybe it's just heading seems to be less relied on these days due to potential effects in later life. Some clubs don't even do it in training anymore.
     
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  20. HCAFCHangout

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    To be fair think our lack of quality on set pieces is having nobody who can take them as of late. Even Twine a renowned specialist at them was really inconsistent here
     
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