They do, though . . . . they'll probably be able to tell the difference between each other, buy we can't 
They've probably got different names
They've probably got different names
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Jazz great Herbie Hancock on playing with Miles Davis, AI, and why the piano makes him cry
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkm2jmy61go
Herbie Hancock is an all-time jazz great, so it is reassuring to hear that he suffers from the same modern day procrastination problems as the rest of us mere mortals.
"I fall into rabbit holes on YouTube. A lot of them. New music writing software, things about health, tech things."
That is his explanation as to why he has not made an album for 15 years.
"I get victimised by it, so to speak, but that's life," he chuckles.
Speaking from his house in west Hollywood, the ridiculously sprightly 84-year-old pianist has never been afraid to embrace technology, but normally he is the one doing the mastering, not vice versa.
Discovered by trumpeter Donald Byrd at the start of the 60s, Hancock signed to Blue Note Records, and wrote jazz standards including Watermelon Man, external, Cantaloupe Island, external and Maiden Voyage, external.
In the 70s he was an early adopter of synthesisers, blending genres with the electro-funk classic Head Hunters.
In the 80s, he had a bona fide worldwide hit single with Rockit after embracing turntablism and scratching, winning five awards at the first ever MTV Awards for its classic dancing robots video, external.
Deee Lite's Groove Is in the Heart? The riff that drives that song is a sample from Hancock's Blow-Up soundtrack. Madonna, Janet Jackson and NWA are among the plethora of performers to have incorporated his music into their own.
As recently as 2008, he beat Amy Winehouse and Kanye West to win his first album of the year award at the Grammys.
The reason we are talking is that Hancock has been announced as one of the recipients of this year's Polar Music Prize, external, the closest music has to a Nobel prize.
Previous laureates have included Sir Paul McCartney, Dizzy Gillespie, Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell and Quincy Jones.
"It's a huge, fantastic list of people I've admired," says Hancock before expressing particular delight that the saxophonist Wayne Shorter was chosen for the honour in 2017, six years before his death. Together they made up two fifths of Miles Davis's Second Great Quintet.
Working with Miles Davis
Joy comes over Hancock's face when reminiscing about the period between 1964 to 1968, when he toured the world with the man Rolling Stone magazine called "the most revered jazz trumpeter of all time".
"I was always frightened playing with Miles," he laughs.
"It was very intimidating. I always wanted to be at my best, because I admired him so much. He was such a big part in my own development as a musician.
"It was fear on one hand. On the other hand, it was exciting. And when things were at their best, it was really inspiring. When were all in sync, that made life worth living."
.... Hancock went to college to study electrical engineering, so it is no surprise that he has taken a huge interest in the rise of Artificial Intelligence (AI).
He believes our fears about the technology are overblown, and says he prefers to "embrace it". Hancock acknowledges concerns that AI lacks an ethical framework but asks: "Who are the worst examples of understanding ethics and being able to live a life with ethics? We, human beings, we're the worst, right?"
He is on a roll now.
"I have this feeling that AI is going to help us all understand and get closer to becoming more ethically responsible people that are helping each other, instead of hurting or killing each other. Helping the planet instead of killing the planet with environmental issues."
And the man who once released an album called Future Shock, has some simple advice for us all.
"When I'm using ChatGPT or Siri on my iPhone, I always say thank you and they usually say, 'You're welcome.'"
"I try to treat AI like it's human and it actually manifests itself in an extremely positive way and that makes me feel better."
At the age of 84, Herbie Hancock is still determined to try and future-proof himself, by getting the robots on his side...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkm2jmy61go
Herbie Hancock is an all-time jazz great, so it is reassuring to hear that he suffers from the same modern day procrastination problems as the rest of us mere mortals.
"I fall into rabbit holes on YouTube. A lot of them. New music writing software, things about health, tech things."
That is his explanation as to why he has not made an album for 15 years.
"I get victimised by it, so to speak, but that's life," he chuckles.
Speaking from his house in west Hollywood, the ridiculously sprightly 84-year-old pianist has never been afraid to embrace technology, but normally he is the one doing the mastering, not vice versa.
Discovered by trumpeter Donald Byrd at the start of the 60s, Hancock signed to Blue Note Records, and wrote jazz standards including Watermelon Man, external, Cantaloupe Island, external and Maiden Voyage, external.
In the 70s he was an early adopter of synthesisers, blending genres with the electro-funk classic Head Hunters.
In the 80s, he had a bona fide worldwide hit single with Rockit after embracing turntablism and scratching, winning five awards at the first ever MTV Awards for its classic dancing robots video, external.
Deee Lite's Groove Is in the Heart? The riff that drives that song is a sample from Hancock's Blow-Up soundtrack. Madonna, Janet Jackson and NWA are among the plethora of performers to have incorporated his music into their own.
As recently as 2008, he beat Amy Winehouse and Kanye West to win his first album of the year award at the Grammys.
The reason we are talking is that Hancock has been announced as one of the recipients of this year's Polar Music Prize, external, the closest music has to a Nobel prize.
Previous laureates have included Sir Paul McCartney, Dizzy Gillespie, Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell and Quincy Jones.
"It's a huge, fantastic list of people I've admired," says Hancock before expressing particular delight that the saxophonist Wayne Shorter was chosen for the honour in 2017, six years before his death. Together they made up two fifths of Miles Davis's Second Great Quintet.
Working with Miles Davis
Joy comes over Hancock's face when reminiscing about the period between 1964 to 1968, when he toured the world with the man Rolling Stone magazine called "the most revered jazz trumpeter of all time".
"I was always frightened playing with Miles," he laughs.
"It was very intimidating. I always wanted to be at my best, because I admired him so much. He was such a big part in my own development as a musician.
"It was fear on one hand. On the other hand, it was exciting. And when things were at their best, it was really inspiring. When were all in sync, that made life worth living."
.... Hancock went to college to study electrical engineering, so it is no surprise that he has taken a huge interest in the rise of Artificial Intelligence (AI).
He believes our fears about the technology are overblown, and says he prefers to "embrace it". Hancock acknowledges concerns that AI lacks an ethical framework but asks: "Who are the worst examples of understanding ethics and being able to live a life with ethics? We, human beings, we're the worst, right?"
He is on a roll now.
"I have this feeling that AI is going to help us all understand and get closer to becoming more ethically responsible people that are helping each other, instead of hurting or killing each other. Helping the planet instead of killing the planet with environmental issues."
And the man who once released an album called Future Shock, has some simple advice for us all.
"When I'm using ChatGPT or Siri on my iPhone, I always say thank you and they usually say, 'You're welcome.'"
"I try to treat AI like it's human and it actually manifests itself in an extremely positive way and that makes me feel better."
At the age of 84, Herbie Hancock is still determined to try and future-proof himself, by getting the robots on his side...
Just watching a news report on the rubbish collection strike in Birmingham, it looks awful and bet it stinks but some have dumped mattresses and furniture. That's not standard waste like and no bin van in the country is taking that. 
Aye, I don’t know what the answer to that is, I’ll have a sleep on it.Just watching a news report on the rubbish collection strike in Birmingham, it looks awful and bet it stinks but some have dumped mattresses and furniture. That's not standard waste like and no bin van in the country is taking that.
Not standard bin waste, but sadly becoming standard values and behaviourJust watching a news report on the rubbish collection strike in Birmingham, it looks awful and bet it stinks but some have dumped mattresses and furniture. That's not standard waste like and no bin van in the country is taking that.
Lad went for a jacuzzi today and said chris rigg was having a sauna.
I asked him if he spoke to him. He said "nah, he was with the under 21 squad and the Portugal team were there too
Lad said he was wearing his Sunderland shirt at the hotel yesterday. (Thursday)
Said Rigg walked past him and said "nice shirt mate".
Lad replied "fùcking hell, alright Chris mate"
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Well it worked for you didn’t it, two million pounds each for that advert …
… sadly Santander employees, in the NE, won’t be working when these branches are closed down, Blyth, Redcar, Stokesley, Whitley Bay, Gateshead, Metrocentre.
What a caring bank, get people to switch accounts then close the branch
Nice quiet day
- no flights in and out of Heathrow
- no flights in and out of Heathrow
Nice quiet day
- no flights in and out of Heathrow
There were worries that the Albanian supporters wouldn't arrive ...
... but it turns out they're all living here already
Banks are all the same mate....don't mention Barclays to me!You must log in or register to see images
Well it worked for you didn’t it, two million pounds each for that advert …
… sadly Santander employees, in the NE, won’t be working when these branches are closed down, Blyth, Redcar, Stokesley, Whitley Bay, Gateshead, Metrocentre.
What a caring bank, get people to switch accounts then close the branch
But they're incognito....mostly in "Turkish" barbers shops waiting for the laundered loot.There were worries that the Albanian supporters wouldn't arrive ...
... but it turns out they're all living here already
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I enjoyed this article. Jeff Bridges is just a cool and interesting character.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...n-silver-linings-and-his-secret-life-in-music
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...n-silver-linings-and-his-secret-life-in-music
Banks-- offer you an umbrella whilst the sun is shining and demand it back as soon as it starts to rain.
... and the increasing number of ''Mini Markets'' Shops that have a counter of vapes, a few bags of crisps and sweets , some cans of pop and thats it. Only rare sightings of a ''customer'' - and therefore sales that wouldn't even cover the electric bill let alone any other shop expenses.
Apologies it’s a tweet, I can’t embed the story from Yahoo so this had to do! Ignoring the dig toward Bridget Phillipson at the end this story really is ridiculous. Eastleighs last census had 97% of folk residing there as Christian or no religion.
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If this is allowed perhaps a head teacher, in Leicester, will decide to cancel any Diwali celebrations …
… Easter is probably the happiest, and most innocent, date of the year.
It's wrapped up with spring, fresh starts and the start of the summer. It’s no more contentious than Harvest Festival. Schools can have a ‘refugee day’ any time they like and, in fact, should be teaching children about the consequences of war on a regular basis.
This is just wrong and I hope she’s quickly put in her place.
I hope the whole community get together and celebrate Easter in as huge a manner as they can organise and make it clear to her that she alone does not decide these things
Bloody ridiculous mate. As @Smug in Boots pointed out, there wouldn’t be a chance of Diwali celebrations being cancelled. Or even Eid. And nor should they.. but the whole point of “inclusion” is just that, being inclusive and not celebrating Easter in Eastleigh of all places is just nonsense. It’s akin to not celebrating Eid somewhere like Bangladesh. I can’t even think who’d be offended? I know other religions won’t actively celebrate it but I’m not sure they oppose others celebrating.