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Two Scenarios

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by flandersmackem, Mar 13, 2025.

  1. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    Scenario 1.

    We get promoted one way or another… Which of our players do you think will get transferred regardless.

    Scenario 2.

    We miss out and will be in the Championship next season. Who do you think will jump ship for pastures new at home or abroad.

    For me.. I think Rigg and Bellingham will go whatever. Maybe Dan Neil as well

    For Scenario 2, I think Cirkin, Hume, Watson and potentially Patterson.

    To be fair, the strategy of the club is to develop and sell and bring on up and coming youngsters. But some of these are what is being called Generational Talents… In Rigg and Jobe I think we have 2 and big premier league teams and top European clubs want them
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe Rigg will go, he's enjoying playing first team football too much and knows he still needs to improve in certain areas. Jobe will go and is already good enough to command a big fee from a big club. If Neil goes I'd be disappointed with him tbh, we've put a lot into the lad, over the years, so I think he owes us a full season whichever league that's in.

    All just my opinion btw.
     
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  3. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    If we gp up i tbink we'll keep Jobe and Rigg for.one final season. Rigg will 100% stay if we go up. We'll also keep Le Fee and Mepham.

    If we dont go up i think we'll lose Jobe, Rigg and Cirkin and Le Fee will move on to a better standard than the Championship. Hume might also leave aswell. Keeping hold of Mepham is also a possibility he seems to like it here, but we'll be at risk of losing him if Burnley or Sheff Utd decide to make a move.

    Ballards injuries will keep him with us another season.
     
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  4. SAFCDRUM

    SAFCDRUM Well-Known Member

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    The way the season has panned out I think there will only be serious interest in Jobe. Good money as well. The way Riggs form has gone, we'll get another season out of him. Brighton may be interested in Watson again and Hume's form may invite offers.

    With Neil it would depend on how he went (hypothetically). If he went because we'd received a very good bid then fair enough, he will have my best wishes. If its due to not signing a contract than I would be very disappointed.
     
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  5. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to be boring and say wait and see.Thanks
    Ideally even if we don't go up they all stay except the loanees but that's just my wishful thinking.
    If we're in the championship it's important that Reggie stays and gets another stab at promotion.
     
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  6. RedNWhite4Life

    RedNWhite4Life Well-Known Member

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    If we go up I don't think we lose anyone. Fail to go up I think we lose Bellingham Rigg and possibly Neil. Also Le Fee won't sign permanently. That's a full midfield out the window
     
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  7. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I don't think we'd lose as many as that. Maybe Neil and Bellingham for me.

    Bellingham and Neil leaving would likely fund a sustained period of relative success for us, they'd both be very hard to replace but the improvements we could make to the squad would be massive.

    I don't think Cirkin has the consistency to take the next step and while Hume has, he is hindered by his pace a little at the top level. That said I could see Hume going.

    Patterson is at the level he should be at currently. Don't think he would leave and wouldn't worry if he did. Replaceable.

    Rigg's potential would be impossible to replace but realistically he hasn't been a standout player at championship level this year.

    I trust the team that's in place to keep building regardless of who we lose.
     
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  8. FellTop

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    I think Watson goes to Brighton in the summer whatever the scenario. Just my opiniom, but twice they have gone hard for him and I think it will be 3rd time lucky for them.

    Another I worry for whatever the scenario is Mayenda. The lad has everything, and is showing it now. I can see some good European clubs spending good money on him now.

    Scenario 1 I think most will stay. It will of course depend on contracts and salary bumps for those with heavy interest. We probably shed a lot of fringe lads not upto prem standard. Our ability to match contracts is my main concern tbh.

    Scenario 2 I think Jobe and Neil both go. They are both prem players now, lets face it. Liverpool and Everton both keen on Neil. Hume probably goes too for a decent prem side. Be a bit of a rebuild and far from easy to do. I think it will be a side built around Rigg in this scenario as I think he stays another year.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Leeds have lost some good players and are going to the PL …

    … unless you’re ’a Liverpool’ it’s impossible to keep players who clearly deserve to play at a level we’ll probably never reach.

    I'd prefer to see our ex-players in the CL and winning titles rather than go to relegation candidates like Southampton and Ipswich tbh.
     
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  10. Iain

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    If we go up I don't think we lose anyone we don't want to, any of our players being poached by PL clubs would be guaranteed playing week in week out with us.
    I think the only one that would leave is Watson and I honestly think that's due to him not wanting to play second fiddle to Mundle which I think he would
     
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  11. JimHeron92

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    Whatever happens I think there are players out there that would let us replace them to a good degree, but the most important thing this summer will be making sure we dont leave ourselves short in depth. Need another right winger who actually shows up, after today we once again have more evidence of why Cirkin can't be your only left back for a full season, Hume needs some competition etc etc
     
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    I just hope things don’t get toxic with the fanbase if form drops further. More likely to lose these players if the atmosphere around the club is poor.
     
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  13. JimHeron92

    JimHeron92 Well-Known Member

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    Personally don't think it will, but maybe hoping. Think Coventry are in the 4 best teams in the league so we shouldn't be too disheartened with the result, just the scoreline is a pisser.
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Things get toxic, with some people, if we don't win by more than one goal ...

    ... today could have them poisoning everything within a 20 mile radius.
     
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  15. Chunksafc

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    It's been brewing online and in the ground for weeks.

    The tone of online posts and the comments in the ground are terrible, we even jeered Patto for catching a cross!

    Mepham gave it the "calm down" gesture Tuesday night.

    We aren't playing well, everyone knows it, but there's a way of discussing that and putting the points across.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    We were recently in L1 playing Accrington and could be in the PL by May ...

    ... if that's not good enough some people will never be happy.
     
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  17. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    None of us expected to be in the position before the season started, yet here we are solid in 4th.

    Today is frustrating as have been the last few games, but it feels like posters and people in the ground want everyone to be screaming blue murder as it's not working as they want
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    What they actually believe is that screaming the loudest means they care the most ...

    ... it's absolutely f*cking pathetic tbh.
     
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  19. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    One of the reasons I haven't bothered to post much these last 2 weeks
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    And people say it's me who chases people off the forum ...

    ... they never think their endlessly miserable posts might be doing that.
     
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