Off Topic Politics Thread

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Osvaldorama said:
That actually explains a lot for me


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How do you guys feel about today’s revelation in parliament that white men are now being discriminated against by UK law?

Thought it was quite an interesting discussion
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You don’t seem to know what a discussion is, so I can’t imagine you did. We’re not just here to answer whatever idiot scheme you dream up on a half hourly basis, funnily enough.

I’ve tried. I really have. But now it’s time to switch off from this again.
 
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To be fair, I think he does respect and listen to you.
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Maybe. I have no idea.

Look, I really welcome voices that I disagree with, and that disagree with me. But it needs to be sensible, adult discussion. Not just one way traffic where questions are ignored, points are ignored, and the only thing you get back is a new topic of whatever the thing-de-jour is. It's boring and adds nothing to my life.

I've never put someone on ignore before, but here we are.
 
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Le Tissier's Laces said:
Maybe. I have no idea.

Look, I really welcome voices that I disagree with, and that disagree with me. But it needs to be sensible, adult discussion. Not just one way traffic where questions are ignored, points are ignored, and the only thing you get back is a new topic of whatever the thing-de-jour is. It's boring and adds nothing to my life.

I've never put someone on ignore before, but here we are.
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I have him on ignore but I always click that damn button! <laugh>

I just want to say I was impressed with how you engaged with him. You tried!
 
In my one man experiment I have found reading this thread more enjoyable over the last two weeks or so.
I no longer get frustrated or angry or just pissed off as a result of reading misinformation that is repeated over and over again, despite it being proven to be misinformation.
I achieved this state of (almost) nirvana by just putting one person on block.
Won’t work for everyone but it works for me.
 
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San Tejón said:
In my one man experiment I have found reading this thread more enjoyable over the last two weeks or so.
I no longer get frustrated or angry or just pissed off as a result of reading misinformation that is repeated over and over again, despite it being proven to be misinformation.
I achieved this state of (almost) nirvana by just putting one person on block.
Won’t work for everyone but it works for me.
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Like I said, I can’t help looking!
 
I have only ever put one person on here on block and they no longer post. That was because I found them to be condescending.

I think it is a shame that some of you have blocked Os. In my opinion, the responses from Laces, Tejon, Jabbo and Loading are the reasons this thread is so compelling. I do not agree with Os yet blocking him is precisely the kind of actions from Liberals that adds efficacy to the freedom of speech argument. In my opinion, let Os spout his nonsense as this provokes genuine abd intelligent responses that I , for one , appreciate. I am not advocating tit for tat replies , rather the fact that the nonsense posted by Os provokes some very good replies. I hope you all continue to post and trust Chilcs will not clamp down in Loading whose posts I appreciate.

This is a brilliant room. Happy to read all types of views .

I
 
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Was thinking this morning about how if a 'legacy media' outlet (lets say a newspaper or AP/Reuters) misinformed/lied in a verifiable way, and at the rate of Trump and Musk, they'd be shut down in a week, or they'd be the Sunday Sport.

Literally, they could not do it.

Yet the propaganda and the psy-op has been so bloody clever, people will go to Musk etc for 'news' over the legacy media because they've been completely fooled into it by these charlatans. It's actually quite extraordinary.
 
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Le Tissier's Laces said:
Was thinking this morning about how if a 'legacy media' outlet (lets say a newspaper or AP/Reuters) misinformed/lied in a verifiable way, and at the rate of Trump and Musk, they'd be shut down in a week, or they'd be the Sunday Sport.

Literally, they could not do it.

Yet the propaganda and the psy-op has been so bloody clever, people will go to Musk etc for 'news' over the legacy media because they've been completely fooled into it by these charlatans. It's actually quite extraordinary.
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People hear what they want to hear.
 
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Le Tissier's Laces said:
Was thinking this morning about how if a 'legacy media' outlet (lets say a newspaper or AP/Reuters) misinformed/lied in a verifiable way, and at the rate of Trump and Musk, they'd be shut down in a week, or they'd be the Sunday Sport.

Literally, they could not do it.

Yet the propaganda and the psy-op has been so bloody clever, people will go to Musk etc for 'news' over the legacy media because they've been completely fooled into it by these charlatans. It's actually quite extraordinary.
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You seem so certain that all of doge’s findings are lies, but you’re wrong. Just think of all the good the money can be used for when it’s spent building, growing and helping people instead of funding corrupt NGOs and siphoned into people’s back pockets
 
6 months ago: Keir Starmer & Labour deride people who suggest we have two-tier justice as “far right conspiracy theorists”

2 months ago: Home Office say “claim of two-tier is evidence of right-wing extremist narrative”

Today: Sentencing Council, overseen by Labour, wants preferential treatment for racial, ethnic, sexual & faith minorities.
 
Osvaldorama said:
6 months ago: Keir Starmer & Labour deride people who suggest we have two-tier justice as “far right conspiracy theorists”

2 months ago: Home Office say “claim of two-tier is evidence of right-wing extremist narrative”

Today: Sentencing Council, overseen by Labour, wants preferential treatment for racial, ethnic, sexual & faith minorities.
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Because white people are far, far more likely to get lenient sentences (eg suspended sentencing). Did you miss that part of the story?
 
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thereisonlyoneno7 said:
People hear what they want to hear.
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I mean, in fairness there’s been a loooooooong campaign by Russian (in particular) bots to sow distrust of Western institutions. Scarily successfully too. If you take a step back though, it’s completely mental. People are basically going to the Sunday Sport for news now.
 
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Osvaldorama said:
6 months ago: Keir Starmer & Labour deride people who suggest we have two-tier justice as “far right conspiracy theorists”

2 months ago: Home Office say “claim of two-tier is evidence of right-wing extremist narrative”

Today: Sentencing Council, overseen by Labour, wants preferential treatment for racial, ethnic, sexual & faith minorities.
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We are in the UK so the sentencing council is independent, non political. So overseen by labour is irrelevant.

you only highlighted the racial part, so I’m assuming the female or pregnant aspects of a psr are irrelevant because as soon as you pick up on one aspect, you can’t ignore the others because they don’t suit what you want to be angry about.

You already know that sentences are longer and more likely to be custodial for those groups, so introducing a psr into these cases is aimed at levelling sentencing and the opposite of two tier.

also what’s a psr and what is the purpose of it?
 
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Mostlymadeofwater said:
We are in the UK so the sentencing council is independent, non political. So overseen by labour is irrelevant.

you only highlighted the racial part, so I’m assuming the female or pregnant aspects of a psr are irrelevant because as soon as you pick up on one aspect, you can’t ignore the others because they don’t suit what you want to be angry about.

You already know that sentences are longer and more likely to be custodial for those groups, so introducing a psr into these cases is aimed at levelling sentencing and the opposite of two tier.

also what’s a psr and what is the purpose of it?
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Did you miss the “sexual” part there or something?

The fact you agree with this, with your background, is frankly scary and shows how ideologically captured the justice system is.

Law should be fair and non-discriminatory by its very nature.
 
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