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  1. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    Wolves could probably catch Man U... unfortunately Ipswich and Leicester probably couldn't now, so United are probably safe from relegation.
     
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  2. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Thinks it's far closer to it than we ever got though, even in the H&G era we weren't that close to the drop at this stage if the season
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Man utd look rotten to the core and honestly if they were not filthy rich and couldn't spend another 3 or 400million I would be thinking they are going to spiral down.

    Terrible keeper
    Tragic back line
    Barely functional midfield
    No width
    Terrible forwards.

    Most of the mid table sides have better units and deserve to be above them
     
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  4. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    We're mathematically safe.

    A win tonight, or anything other than a win for Man U tonight, means that they mathematically can't finish above us either. In February.
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Just going back to this point on breaking the season into 3rds.

    Played 13 w11 d1 l1 = 34 points

    Played 26 w18 d7 l1 = 61 points and 27 points gained gained 7, drawn 6. lost 0.

    There's a final 12 games then and we have already won the first one.

    If we went the entire season at the form of the first third we would get 99 points.

    If we went the entire season at the form of the second third we would only get 79 points.

    If we continue the current level of form now until the end we would end up on 89 points.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Another block of 4 games is done. we've done better than exepcted over 3 tough games. after the last block i posted that 10/12 wuld be title winning. Its done.

    Block Performance:

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    10/12 is championshipo winning form again.

    Historical Performance
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    block 7as good as last year, we were joint top this time last year and it fell apart. this time theres a massive cushion of points.


    Points Trend
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    Just on the line for 90. we won't need 90.

    Performance v Bottom half teams
    Games played 14
    Goals scored 34
    Goal conceded 9
    Games won 12
    Games drawn 2
    Games lost 0
    Win ratio 86%
    Draw ratio 14%
    Loss ratio 0%
    Goals per game 2.43
    Goals conceded per game 0.64
    Points per game 2.71

    6 games left v bottom half. we conced 0.64 a game! score 2.43 per game! ominous. 4 of these are also at home.


    Performance V Top Half Sides _forest added so this looks ok.)
    Games played 14
    Goals scored 31
    Goal conceded 16
    Games won 8
    Games drawn 5
    Games lost 1
    Win ratio 57%
    Draw ratio 36%
    Loss ratio 7%
    Goals per game 2.21
    Goals conceded per game 1.1
    Points per game 2.07


    There are 4 of these games left. we have dropped from 1.3 goals per game conceded to 1.1 with some clean sheets this block.

    the 4 left are spurs, chelsea, arsenal and brighton. (and yes psurs are not going to be top half but they are a consistent top half team over time and will be again)


    Super League Scum Table:


    Super league 6 table
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    Super league 6 V the rest table
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    City have played 9 of 10 games. chelsea only 6. based on this and seeing cheslea play arsneal, lfc, Spurs and Man utd I would say they need to improve a lot to make top 4.

    11 points of our gap is now based on arsenal perofrmance agasint non top 6 teams. This just shows how theres a lot of talents out there that you have to be on your game against.


    Where does this season Compare with 2019/20
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    We have conceded more goals over all, especially in the middle thrid of the season. belive it or not we are a full 12 points behind our perfect season. you can see that red line above of just perfect block after block.

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    We have actually scored 5 more goals than the same time in 2020

    We have conceded 6 more than the same time in 2020


    Gap between first and second over time
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    The only season where a team with a large lead after 28 games has lost the title is 2022/23 where arsenal imploded and city took the title, that was an 8 poit gap at the phase with games not being even.

    In the past 10 years only 3 times have the top team being caught and the gap was 0 points last year (gd) and 1 point gap in 2018/19 where city had to win all the last games to catch us.

    In other words 13 points has never been caught in RECENT history.


    The next 4 games.

    Southampton H
    Everton H
    Fulham A
    West Ham H

    Last block of 4
    Leicester A
    Spurs H
    Chelsea A
    Arsenal H

    the left overs:
    Brighton A
    Crystal Palace H

    Now is the time to finihs this off. We can win a cup, progress i tnhe CL and still say we should win these 4 games by rights. 12 more points = 79 points and really you go beat leicester and i dont expect arsenal to be able to catch 82 points TBH.

    That has to be the target while we manage the squad and internationals.

    PSG Away
    southampton Home
    PSG away
    Newcastle final
    International break
    Everton Home (is actually wednday 2nd april at 8pm, no excuses about internationals here)
    fulham A 5th april
    CL QF (maybe) 8th april
    West ham H 12th april
    CL QF (maybe) 15th april
    Leicester A 19th april


    thats how to win the league. a busy april

    but now the CL SF if we are lucky is 29th april and 5th may. this has to be moentioned in the context of getting this title done. why?

    Spurs H 26th April
    CL SF 29th april
    Chelsea H 3rd may
    CL SF 5th may
    Arsenal H 10th May

    My view now is lets get this done early and try our best in the CL. the route is PSG, villa, Real (not a chance arsenal beat real) Thats tough enough but we are set up now to get there.

    Villa will have to put everything into the league soon or just everythign into CL (stupid they havent a hope v real) they are miles off 5th.
    PSg are tough but this is set up for us to put everythign in and still control southampton.

    12/12 lets get the job done now. Not easy games but we need to manage them and deliver.

    I would expect another couple of arsenal draws to make that 12/12 decisive (not that 13 point game isn't decisive)
     
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  7. Bumps

    Bumps Well-Known Member

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    Seems City have had most of their big six clashes over and done with before we get to the run in and the CL latter stages
    Interesting
     
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  8. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    It’s why city are huge favs to finish top 4 for me. Squad depth is there, already played majority of big teams and out of the CL.

    3rd will be minimum they finish
     
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  9. Bumps

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    Think you will be right there
    It’s certainly possible looking at the fixtures
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Year 1st 2nd
    2024/25 67 54
    2023/24 64 64
    2022/23 69 61
    2021/22 69 66
    2020/21 65 54
    2019/20 79 57
    2018/19 69 68
    2017/18 75 57
    2016/17 69 59
    2015/16 57 54
    2014/15 63 58
    2013/14 63 59
    2012/13 71 59
    2011/12 67 66
    2010/11 60 57
    2009/10 61 60
    2008/09 65 58

    The view that this season is abnormal is wrong.

    67 after 28 is right in line with nearly every season for the past 10 bar of course our amazing 2019/20 season.

    I don't even think this gap is astounding. 20/21 was 11, 2019/20 was 2, 2017/18 was 18, 2016/17 was 10, 2012/13 was 12. 2022/23 was 8. I would say half of the seasons have had the title over by now in effect.
     
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  11. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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  12. mighty_stevie_g

    mighty_stevie_g Well-Known Member

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    It's all good, let them believe the league title was theirs but for some bad luck.

    Hopefully they do very little in the summer because of it.
     
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  13. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

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    I don’t think that you can buy ‘bottle’ anyway.
     
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  14. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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  15. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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  16. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    And Liverpool :bandit:
     
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  17. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    He's no Jamie Carragher.
     
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  19. saintanton

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    Was going to say, if he had one against Forest he should pop in an oggie just to get the set.
     
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  20. saintanton

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    Checked your PMs lately?
     
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