Maybe we aint seen the last of Gyan - MON speaks
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No offence taken mate.
All passion, us like!
I understand where all the naysayers are coming from.
I saw glimpses of a brilliant player who was then abysmally managed and made to chase lost causes.
I would just love to watch him in a structured attack.
I read your piece afterwards with the dialogue between Gyan/Ellis/Quinn and I thought the only voice missing was the agent from Ghana!!!!!... These people would break your heart if you let them.....I always thought that Gyan looked a bit like Pele myself....If you remember i wrote a bit about Bendtner coming long before he did....I wandered about for days singing "Ebony and Ivory....!!! Right now if you asked me I would say that Bendtner is, and will be, streets ahead of him ... COS HES HERE!!!!see what MO does with him...he`ll be great.... Christ! compare that with a certain young man whose come back from the dead.........TWICE!!!!! and is slogging his guts out probably as we talk.....I`d take Gyan back...he can peel the oranges for half time......KTF youngun` D
Yes but Ken, neither did Bent, neither has Bendtner. How many more times can we swallow this 'greedy b**tard' easy answer? We're writing off some damn good strikers here one after the other rather than face the fact that Bruce lacked attacking ambition and cheesed off every striker we had.
I dont mean to be rude but maybe if the powers that be took a stance on Bent and Gyan like Daniel Levy did at Spurs with Modric then Sunderland could possibly be mid table at least with more points in the bag and a better goal difference!
Ellis Short and Niall Quinn showed a weakness to both player power and money and as a result the team, the club and most importantly the fans have suffered.
Sunderland are still in the premiership from Bents goals alone however Gyan wasnt as effective, isnt as popular as Bent was and showed no heart or desire to stay so should be sold and replaced recouping all £13 million.
Easier said than done as Sunderland struggle to bring in quality players. MON i would imagine will bring in Emile Heskey for a short term fix and look to rebuild his squad in the summer when he will have a better opinion on who will be part of his plans.
Ellis Short and Niall Quinn showed a weakness to both player power and money and as a result the team, the club and most importantly the fans have suffered.
Sunderland are still in the premiership from Bents goals alone however Gyan wasnt as effective, isnt as popular as Bent was and showed no heart or desire to stay so should be sold and replaced recouping all £13 million.
Easier said than done as Sunderland struggle to bring in quality players. MON i would imagine will bring in Emile Heskey for a short term fix and look to rebuild his squad in the summer when he will have a better opinion on who will be part of his plans.
The buck stops with the manager.
If Bruce didn't want them to leave he could have stood his ground and told them no way are you letting our better players go, he would have earned much more respect from myself by doing so.
Didn't MON leave Villa because the guys upstairs were talking about selling players?
That's not spitting his dummy out that's a manager saying you're not cutting the legs from underneath me and I'm not going to take it.
O.k., nobody can tell all the people on this board what to think, and I'm not going to try. But this is what I'm going to do.
I think we have now a much better, more imaginative, manager than we had up to last Wednesday. Nobody will ever know what went on behind the scenes during the Bruce years, so I'm prepared to write it off and wipe the slate clean for everybody. If Mon's first transfer activity is a bid for Darren Bent, I'll take it. Gyan - I'll take it. If Onuoha wants to change his mind about living in the N.W. I'll take it. And I'll do that because those players will not be the same under MON as they became under Bruce. Their attitude would be different.
Let's just forget everything that happened (whatever it was) and get moving for the future. To hell with the lot of it.
I think we have now a much better, more imaginative, manager than we had up to last Wednesday. Nobody will ever know what went on behind the scenes during the Bruce years, so I'm prepared to write it off and wipe the slate clean for everybody. If Mon's first transfer activity is a bid for Darren Bent, I'll take it. Gyan - I'll take it. If Onuoha wants to change his mind about living in the N.W. I'll take it. And I'll do that because those players will not be the same under MON as they became under Bruce. Their attitude would be different.
Let's just forget everything that happened (whatever it was) and get moving for the future. To hell with the lot of it.
Fair point on the agent mate.
To me, agents shouldn't be allowed to have any say in anything, until the two clubs have settled the transfer fee.
The agent can then negotiate personal terms, if it falls through at that stage it is quite plain where the greed lies.
I can't believe anyone is contemplating taking this individual back, lets remind you all what he did. AFTER the transfer window closed he moved to Al-Ain because "football is all about challenges", HE MOVED TO THE UAE BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGE. Not only did he take the piss out of our owner and chairman but he took the piss out of every Sunderland supporter who not only paid his wages but worshipped him. There is no circumstance out there that I would take him back, would rather play 4-6-0 .
I have read all of this thread and the many opinions and arguements for and against Gyan returning!
He is still ours and is worth atleast £13m (+whatever we are getting whilst he is away). Quite and asset.
Some have questioned his passion. I have seen him play for Ghana and no-one could question his passion at that level. I saw him play last season for us and again could not question his passion until Bent left. If we put ourselves in his shoes for a minute: He was sold the 'Sunderland brand' on the basis of an improving squad and a strike force of Bent, Gyan, Welbeck and Campbell .... one of the strongest in the premier league ..... easy to show passion when things are going well! Then, Bent goes and despite the utterences from on high, we do not replace him and both Welbeck and campbell get injured .... SAFC response - NOTHING, so the club lost inertia and the players lost confidence and all including Gyan became disinterested!
So, for Gyan, the alarm bells are ringing and is agent smells an opportunity for a fast buck! SAFC should have been proactive to assure Gyan that we would soon be back on track with an influx of 'quality' not 'quantity' and early action to replace Bent and Welbeck with more of the same. We all know that Whickham and Ji will not have inspired him and the loss of Henderson would have agin sent the wrong message. Bendtner was a panic buy and again Crouch was not interested .... if you were Gyan, how would you have reacted? particularly with an agent touting you around to the highest bidder. The club were not loyal to him, so what did he feel he owed the club.
So, MON, talk to the lad .... what is the worst that can happen? we sell him and get £13+m and the best he becomes one of an new and impressive strike force of 4.
I am not saying other than, this is another view of what might have happened.
He is still ours and is worth atleast £13m (+whatever we are getting whilst he is away). Quite and asset.
Some have questioned his passion. I have seen him play for Ghana and no-one could question his passion at that level. I saw him play last season for us and again could not question his passion until Bent left. If we put ourselves in his shoes for a minute: He was sold the 'Sunderland brand' on the basis of an improving squad and a strike force of Bent, Gyan, Welbeck and Campbell .... one of the strongest in the premier league ..... easy to show passion when things are going well! Then, Bent goes and despite the utterences from on high, we do not replace him and both Welbeck and campbell get injured .... SAFC response - NOTHING, so the club lost inertia and the players lost confidence and all including Gyan became disinterested!
So, for Gyan, the alarm bells are ringing and is agent smells an opportunity for a fast buck! SAFC should have been proactive to assure Gyan that we would soon be back on track with an influx of 'quality' not 'quantity' and early action to replace Bent and Welbeck with more of the same. We all know that Whickham and Ji will not have inspired him and the loss of Henderson would have agin sent the wrong message. Bendtner was a panic buy and again Crouch was not interested .... if you were Gyan, how would you have reacted? particularly with an agent touting you around to the highest bidder. The club were not loyal to him, so what did he feel he owed the club.
So, MON, talk to the lad .... what is the worst that can happen? we sell him and get £13+m and the best he becomes one of an new and impressive strike force of 4.
I am not saying other than, this is another view of what might have happened.
You think that if Short decides Gyan/Bent/whoever has to go, then the manager can just dig hi sheels in and the players stays? No, I'm afraid the buck stops with the chairman who overall makes all the final decisions on all the clubs assets.
I tell you what...you make this sound like a season and a half of episodes of Coronation Street Its a farce as you describe it and I must admit to having a little chuckle I believe for all his faults Bruce wouldnt have played him again....and neither would Quinn Hes an honourable man....Listen to the pros....the good pros Theyve all been about manning up and seeing out the bad luck Its just about money with him now...not how much hes on or how much it would cost to bring him back....Just how we`ll get the balance back.......
I believe Bruce was right when he said he inferred he wouldnt play again ...... Somebody else saying cos hes tweeting hes still got Sunderland in his heart hahahahaha!...."Put ourselves in his shoes...." you say...... youve got to be joking pal..... Ive just had a word with myself and anybody just a bit short of money this happy Christmas on Wearside....ask them what they think..... "What did he feel he owed the club?" ........hahahhahaha!
Don't be your usual idiotic self.
If a manager has anything about him of course he digs his heels in.
Do you imagine the likes of Jose, Fergie, Wenger or the blessed MON would have stood for it?
Unless you are quite happy to just collect your wages and say what will be will be.
Oh silly me you're basing it on your club where your manager is your chairman's bum boy.
The whole episode left a sour taste for me buddy.. For the last yr he strolled around the park attempting daft flicks and shrugging his shoulders... He isn't good enough to do that. I do agree that a new manager may reinvigorate him, but he will always be looking for his next big move.
In fairness tho, the more I read the arguments for & against on here, the more compelling the argument becomes.
Don't be your usual idiotic self.
If a manager has anything about him of course he digs his heels in.
Do you imagine the likes of Jose, Fergie, Wenger or the blessed MON would have stood for it?
Unless you are quite happy to just collect your wages and say what will be will be.
Oh silly me you're basing it on your club where your manager is your chairman's bum boy.
You are seriously trying to compare Bruce to Fergie or Wenger?
The difference there is that the chairman knows the manager is not expendable. The vast majority of managers in the prem know that they are replaceable, hence can stomp their feet about a player being sold, but in the end the chairman will decide.
You are seriously trying to compare Bruce to Fergie or Wenger?
Talk about thick!
How the hell was I comparing Bruce to Fergie?
I was saying they wouldn't have stood for it, where as Bruce did.
I'm talking about a manager having the balls to stand up for himself you ignorant inbred numpty!
Which MON has already done at Villa.
If you aren't intelligent enough to understand what is written, you're best off staying on your own board.
We all know you come here because of the more intelligent Mackem posters.
You are seriously trying to compare Bruce to Fergie or Wenger?
PS.
Numpty here is a headline with a name you may recognise.
"Dietmar Hamann resigns as Stockport manager over broken promises"
