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Thus Spake Zarathustra said:
That said, you're right - we never seemed this worked up 30 years ago when Serbia was running rampant through the Balkans - I wonder why? :huh: :bandit:
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As for myself, I was a teenager and didn't have a grasp of what was going on.
Obviously the internet was around 30 years ago, but we didn't utilize it to get more news on a specific situation and may not have fully understood what was going on. I know I didn't really know much about Yugoslavia when I was a teenager.
 
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brb said:
<laugh>
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My example a few pages back was no import taxes on goods that Ukraine doesn't make in numbers domestically if Britain supplied troops. Something that wouldn't hurt Ukraine economy, but might help those who are helping. Obviously anyone helping rebuild Ukraine, or defend Ukraine shouldn't be doing it for profit, but if Ukraine can make things a little smoother for them as a thank you, that would be a good thing.

I'm not talking about Trump saying "we get 50% of your minerals", and it has to be something Ukraine itself is in agreement with.
 
Thus Spake Zarathustra said:
Hmm, as my sister put it years ago when I pointed out our different attitudes towards Ukrainian and Palestinian refugees 'One are white Christians, the other are brown Muslims'. Crude, but that's how she thinks. Not saying this is you at all, or this a valid viewpoint (in fact, you seem to be stating the exact opposite, tbf), but the fact that it's on the European mainland seems to be a big thing. That said, you're right - we never seemed this worked up 30 years ago when Serbia was running rampant through the Balkans - I wonder why? :huh: :bandit:
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It's what I'm saying, we don't care, we haven't got this worked up about other countries. The whole thing just ****ing reeks to me. I'm not saying the people like you and me don't care, we do, but those in power don't, it's all about what makes the world go round.

If we were just talking about you and me, of course I'd want Ukraine to have their freedoms and of course I'd be happy to stand alongside them, people seem to interpret the opposite to what I say because of the way I say it, but ffs you all should be use to me by now. The EU, Trump, NATO, Putin, I wouldn't trust any of them, and I certainly wouldn't put my body on the line for those four groups of power.
 
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Milk.. said:
My example a few pages back was no import taxes on goods that Ukraine doesn't make in numbers domestically if Britain supplied troops. Something that wouldn't hurt Ukraine economy, but might help those who are helping. Obviously anyone helping rebuild Ukraine, or defend Ukraine shouldn't be doing it for profit, but if Ukraine can make things a little smoother for them as a thank you, that would be a good thing.

I'm not talking about Trump saying "we get 50% of your minerals", and it has to be something Ukraine itself is in agreement with.
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If I was helping someone mate, I'd be doing it for nothing, I'm just that way in heart and mind. There are no clauses, there is no prenuptial, things in life for me are done in faith.
 
Three buses explode in Israel in 'suspected terror attack', police say
According to local media, one of the unexploded devices, weighing 5kg, carried a message saying "Revenge from Tulkarem" - referring to a recent Israeli military counter-terrorism operation in the West Bank.

Call me a cynic, but I don't think Netanyahu and several members of his Govt want a ceasefire. They want to go back into Gaza and start fighting again.

I hope this incident wont' be used to do that.

We don't even have any evidence of who carried it out yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydln190xqo

 
PISKIE said:
Three buses explode in Israel in 'suspected terror attack', police say
According to local media, one of the unexploded devices, weighing 5kg, carried a message saying "Revenge from Tulkarem" - referring to a recent Israeli military counter-terrorism operation in the West Bank.

Call me a cynic, but I don't think Netanyahu and several members of his Govt want a ceasefire. They want to go back into Gaza and start fighting again.

I hope this incident wont' be used to do that.

We don't even have any evidence of who carried it out yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydln190xqo
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I don't get why you are blaming Netanyahu or are you suggesting a false flag?
 
brb said:
I don't get why you are blaming Netanyahu or are you suggesting a false flag?
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I'm not blaming anybody at this point, I'll wait until the evidence comes out.

What I'm saying is that I hope this incident isn't used to break the ceasefire.
 
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PISKIE said:
I'm not blaming anybody at this point, I'll wait until the evidence comes out.

What I'm saying is that I hope this incident isn't used to break the ceasefire.
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This certainly seems like you blaming Netty to me, quote...

Call me a cynic, but I don't think Netanyahu and several members of his Govt want a ceasefire. They want to go back into Gaza and start fighting again.
 
brb said:
This certainly seems like you blaming Netty to me, quote...

Call me a cynic, but I don't think Netanyahu and several members of his Govt want a ceasefire. They want to go back into Gaza and start fighting again.
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I don't think they do want a ceasefire. I think they want to go back into Gaza and try to finish off Hamas.

What I'm saying, is that I hope they don't use this incident to do that.
 
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PISKIE said:
I don't think they do want a ceasefire. I think they want to go back into Gaza and try to finish off Hamas.

What I'm saying, is that I hope they don't use this incident to do that.
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So you post a story that three buses explode in Tel Aviv, then go on to say you don't think Netanyahu wants a ceasefire <laugh>
 
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brb said:
So you post a story that three buses explode in Tel Aviv, then go on to say you don't think Netanyahu wants a ceasefire <laugh>
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We’ll just go round in circles endlessly until you understand what I’ve said. <laugh>

I don’t think he does want a ceasefire

and regardless of who is responsible, my fear is that he’ll use it to end the ceasefire.

I hope I’m wrong
 
PISKIE said:
Three buses explode in Israel in 'suspected terror attack', police say
According to local media, one of the unexploded devices, weighing 5kg, carried a message saying "Revenge from Tulkarem" - referring to a recent Israeli military counter-terrorism operation in the West Bank.

Call me a cynic, but I don't think Netanyahu and several members of his Govt want a ceasefire. They want to go back into Gaza and start fighting again.

I hope this incident wont' be used to do that.

We don't even have any evidence of who carried it out yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydln190xqo
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Odd first thought to have to an incident like this.
 
Libby said:
Dunno it just read to me that your initial response to a terror attack on Israel was to have a dig at them.

Maybe I read it wrong.
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It’s not that at all mate. My fear is that it could be used as a reason to end the ceasefire though.
 
PISKIE said:
It’s not that at all mate. My fear is that it could be used as a reason to end the ceasefire though.
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Fair enough mate. Well if it is Hamas it's clearly a breach of the terms so wouldn't surprise me.
 
Libby said:
Fair enough mate. Well if it is Hamas it's clearly a breach of the terms so wouldn't surprise me.
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It could be, it could also be another Palestinian military group, a lone wolf. Or it could even be a set up designed to break the ceasefire.

I don’t know. I guess we’ll have to wait for more evidence to come out.
 
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