Election 2024

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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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That’s fine and I agree with it but you are a Lib Dem supporter so why don’t you comment on the posts about Labour covering up the grooming gangs or Labour MP’s under the spotlight for their antisemitism? Or even their rise on taxes and NI which directly affects you as a small business owner?

Too busy commenting on the war thread mate <laugh>
 
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tbf I have commented on the grooming gangs stuff and the anit-semitism.

The stuff on here is a pile in on Labour, but the reality is more nuanced.
 
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It is important but Labour could do everything on illegal migration and it wouldn’t be enough for their critics. If every single brown person was deported they’d turn on Eastern Europeans again or something. By all means be better on migration than what came before but really can’t see them winning voters from Reform because of that. Improvements to the NHS, schools or whatever yeah.

Yeah there's a section of voters who have set up their anti Labour camp now and they probably aren't getting their votes whatever they do.

Said to @brb the other day, I don't see Starmer doing a lot wrong right now, although the WFA, WASPI and Farmer's tax issue were massive PR gaffes, whatever the merits or lack thereof of the actual policies.

Imo, he's actually a fairly decent statesman and his experience in law is something that will root him and the party in the middle ground, in a world where it seems more and more leaders are just making it up as they go along, I think he's a fairly safe pair of hands.
 
Tbf they have a lot of stuff to pile on about.

I'm not saying they don't deserve criticism, and they need to be held to account. Tbf, the stuff I was commenting on the grooming gangs was the pile in on Starmer for 'covering it up' when he was DPP, when in fact it was CPS guidelines that hindered those prosecutions, something Starmer made sure were reformed in order to get convictions.

As for the Anti-Semitism stuff, I'm seeing him boot people out of the party for it. So that's the right thing to do. At least he's got his party's backing to do that now, unlike when they stitched Corbyn up when he was investigating it. People will say, 'oh there's still a problem with anti semitism in the labour party' but you get racists and bigots across the political spectrum and in other parties, whether it's anti semitism, islamophobia etc. I guess all you can do is root it out when it comes to light.
 
Digging out Starmer is like complaining about a new manager 2 weeks after being appointed when the last manager got sacked with you rooted to the bottom of the table. It also seems to be the ones who thought they were too cool for school that get riled the most. Take some personal responsibility for ****ing up your own life boys.
 
Well done, Labour <applause>

Now we just need to make sure all these people are deported and not released as long as they promise to stay monitored. Need tougher action on that but this is a big step forward and good to read.

Hundreds of migrants have been arrested since the start of this year as part of a UK-wide crackdown on illegal working, the government has said.

Enforcement teams raided 828 premises including nail bars, car washes, and restaurants and made 609 arrests - a 73% increase from January 2024 and the highest figure for any January on record.

Officials say many migrants are drawn in by false promises about their ability to live and work in the UK, which leads them to "risk their lives by crossing the Channel".

It comes as the government's immigration bill is set to be debated by MPs on Monday. Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp has called it a "weak bill that won't stop the boats".

A significant proportion of last month's raids took place at restaurants, takeaways and cafes, the Home Office said.

It also gave examples of arrests made in vape shops in Cheshire and a grocery warehouse in south London.

Those arrested made the journey to the UK through a mix of routes, including by crossing the Channel and by overstaying legitimately-granted visas.

Home Secretary Yvette Cooper said the government was boosting enforcement to "record levels" and that immigration rules "must be respected".

"For far too long, employers have been able to take on and exploit illegal migrants and too many people have been able to arrive and work illegally with no enforcement action ever taken," she said.

"Not only does this create a dangerous draw for people to risk their lives by crossing the Channel in a small boat, but it results in the abuse of vulnerable people, the immigration system and our economy."

From the start of the Labour government in July up to 31 January, 3,930 arrests were made over 5,424 visits by immigration enforcement officers.

A total of 1,090 civil penalty notices were also issued, with employers facing a fine of up to £60,000 per worker if found liable.

During the same period, four of the "biggest return flights in the UK's history" were also carried out, the Home Office said, returning more than 800 people.

But Reform UK leader Nigel Farage described the new figures released by the government as feeble, compared with the numbers that had entered the country.

Across the 31 days of January, there were 1,098 people who arrived in the UK illegally on small boats.

The government said it launched a social media campaign in Vietnam in December and Albania in January discouraging people from making the journey to the UK.

The adverts highlight stories from migrants who entered the UK illegally "only to face debt, exploitation and a life far from what they were promised", the Home Office said.

It comes as the government's Border Security, Asylum and Immigration Bill is set to be debated in the House of Commons in its second reading.

The bill aims to introduce a raft of new offences and counter terrororism-style powers to clamp down on people smugglers bringing migrants across the Channel.

But Labour ministers have not provided a specific target on when a drop in small boat crossings could be expected.

The Conservatives said they had put forward an amendment to the immigration bill in a bid to include their own immigration proposals: to double how long it takes migrants to get indefinite leave to remain and, after that, require them to wait five years rather than one before they can apply for citizenship.

Philp added that "an effective removals deterrent is needed" to stop small boat crossings, something he said Labour had scrapped, a reference to the former government's plan to send illegal migrants to Rwanda.

Heard this morning there has been immigration raids on nail bars, restaurants and car washes...not sure how many arrested yet.
 
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Starmer obviously has his critics - but it seems to me that there is way more 'action' happening under this administration - rather than more motions, amendments and prevarication..
 
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Spent half my morning guarding the tanning salon and barber just in case. They can take a vape shop or two as there are a dozen others and three more pop up for every one that closes.

I was going to joke about hairdressers, raided the day after a Liverpool defeat when takings would have been high.
 
Polls are bouncing around right now, with the last two showing a Labour lead again

But, of course the most remarkable is that the Tories are rooted in third place.

They won't stick with Badenoch at this rate surely
 
Polls are bouncing around right now, with the last two showing a Labour lead again

But, of course the most remarkable is that the Tories are rooted in third place.

They won't stick with Badenoch at this rate surely

Tories aint gaining anything, although I noticed Cleverly loitering around the farmers outside Parliament this morning. Tbph I've not taken notice of a single poll, why would I, it's another 4 years before anything can change on the party front, so it's all to create a media circus and beyond that is pointless. Reform are never getting in, end of. Just business as usual as it should be for Keir, and apart from one of his dickheads giving the media a little something to get excited about, the news is quiet today, hence why the focus is on farmers having a day out in London, quite boring really. Oh and some female singer got booed at the Super Bowl...just remembered her name Taylor Swift...that's how bad the news is today. Hopefully Trump will nuke Iran to warm things up a bit.
 
Yeah there's a section of voters who have set up their anti Labour camp now and they probably aren't getting their votes whatever they do.

Said to @brb the other day, I don't see Starmer doing a lot wrong right now, although the WFA, WASPI and Farmer's tax issue were massive PR gaffes, whatever the merits or lack thereof of the actual policies.

Imo, he's actually a fairly decent statesman and his experience in law is something that will root him and the party in the middle ground, in a world where it seems more and more leaders are just making it up as they go along, I think he's a fairly safe pair of hands.

You didn't tell me nowt, I was praising Starmer and you jumped on the bandwagon like the look at me type of comments you normally make. Can't you just **** off to the war thread and stay there, thanks.
 
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You didn't tell me nowt, I was praising Starmer and you jumped on the bandwagon like the look at me type of comments you normally make. Can't you just **** off to the war thread and stay there, thanks.

I wasn't telling you, I was agreeing with what you were saying ffs <laugh>

Even when we have a decent convo you revert to your hostile default.

Have a cup of Camomile tea bro

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