Off Topic Chazz's Book Club

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Trumpton Tiger. said:
Not a book but a film .A Complete Unknown. The life of Bob Dylan's early years from 1961 to 1965. From a young 20 year old arriving in New York and playing at open mic nights, to his subsequent rise to fame and him going electric at the Newport Folk Festival in 1965. This film captures the moment magically.
I thought it was a fabulous film and the young bloke who plays Dylan was superb.
Fully deserving of an Oscar.
Highly recommended.
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The young bloke is Timothée Chalamet and he fully deserves the Oscar for Best Actor in a Leading Role, partly for being such a convincing Bob Dylan, partly for morphing the role into John Cooper Clark halfway through the film and partly for claiming that the Hull accent is the sexiest thing around.

'Ow do it fail, 'Ow do it fail?
To be wi'out a hame
Like a compleat unknawn, like a rawling staine.
 
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Trumpton Tiger. said:
Not a book but a film .A Complete Unknown. The life of Bob Dylan's early years from 1961 to 1965. From a young 20 year old arriving in New York and playing at open mic nights, to his subsequent rise to fame and him going electric at the Newport Folk Festival in 1965. This film captures the moment magically.
I thought it was a fabulous film and the young bloke who plays Dylan was superb.
Fully deserving of an Oscar.
Highly recommended.
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Agreed - saw the film on Saturday night - completed a great weekend after the result on Friday. Wonder why they changed Suzie Ritolo's name to Sylvie?
 
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TwoWrights said:
Defiance, by Janet Alder, her autobiography and story of her brother Christopher's unlawful killing. All of those involved in his case, CPS included, should be ashamed of themselves. Hollywood wouldn't film it as they'd class the events as too far fetched.
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Every time I see her on Look North I'm amazed by her strength to keep battling on, year after year - if you were in trouble you'd want her on your side.
 
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tigerrev said:
Agreed - saw the film on Saturday night - completed a great weekend after the result on Friday. Wonder why they changed Suzie Ritolo's name to Sylvie?
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The character of Sylvie Russo in the movie is based on Suze Rotolo, Bob Dylan's girlfriend at the time. The New York Times reported that Dylan requested that the director, James Mangold, not use Ms. Rotolo's real name in the film. Mangold stated that "what Bob expressed to me was just that this was not a public person."

Which is fair enough, except for the fact that everyone knows exactly who she is.
 
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Ernie Shackleton said:
Which is fair enough, except for the fact that everyone knows exactly who she is.
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Ernie. In the film, is there as reference to Dylan going to a house in London to meet who he thought was Dave Stewart? But it was a completely different bloke. Still Dylan spent the best part of a couple of hours chatting to him and his wife. Still don't think he knew it wasn't Dave Stewart.
 
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Ernie. In the film, is there as reference to Dylan going to a house in London to meet who he thought was Dave Stewart? But it was a completely different bloke. Still Dylan spent the best part of a couple of hours chatting to him and his wife. Still don't think he knew it wasn't Dave Stewart.
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Short answer, No.

Longer answer, the film is set almost completely in Greenwich Village, various Newport Folk Festivals and a hospital which houses Woody Guthrie. There's very little mention of Britain or all things British 'n' Bob. Even the Free Trade Hall cry of 'Judas' is relocated to Newport, Rhode Island. The film also only covers events up to 1965.
 
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Ernie Shackleton said:
Short answer, No.

Longer answer, the film is set almost completely in Greenwich Village, various Newport Folk Festivals and a hospital which houses Woody Guthrie. There's very little mention of Britain or all things British 'n' Bob. Even the Free Trade Hall cry of 'Judas' is relocated to Newport, Rhode Island. The film also only covers events up to 1965.
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That's a shame. Cracking story...According to what I know there was a short film made about it. Dave Stewart said he knows it to be true and the people to whom he rocked up at their house in Crouch End, said it happened. Apparently Dylan does or did it quite regularly. Just knocked at the door to a strangers house for a chat!! Was the Judas shout at Isle of Wight festival. For a guess.
 
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That's a shame. Cracking story...According to what I know there was a short film made about it. Dave Stewart said he knows it to be true and the people to whom he rocked up at their house in Crouch End, said it happened. Apparently Dylan does or did it quite regularly. Just knocked at the door to a strangers house for a chat!! Was the Judas shout at Isle of Wight festival. For a guess.
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Ernie answers this correctly in an earlier post. The 'Judas' heckle was at the Manchester Free Hall concert when Dylan toured England soon after going electric, not at Newport as portrayed in the film. It doesn't matter really it was still a cracking film, so much so that i'm going to see it again tomorrow for a quarter of the price I paid on Monday afternoon.
 
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Trumpton Tiger. said:
Ernie answers this correctly in an earlier post. The 'Judas' heckle was at the Manchester Free Hall concert when Dylan toured England soon after going electric, not at Newport as portrayed in the film. It doesn't matter really it was still a cracking film, so much so that i'm going to see it again tomorrow for a quarter of the price I paid on Monday afternoon.
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Octogenarian rates? :emoticon-0138-think


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
 
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TwoWrights said:
Octogenarian rates? :emoticon-0138-think


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
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Special rates for residents of the East Riding, subsidised by HCC. Two for a fiver, Thursday afternoons only, in Beverley.
Paid just short of £30 for two of us on Kingswood on Monday afternoon. Less than ten people in the place.
 
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Trumpton Tiger. said:
Special rates for residents of the East Riding, subsidised by HCC. Two for a fiver, Thursday afternoons only, in Beverley.
Paid just short of £30 for two of us on Kingswood on Monday afternoon. Less than ten people in the place.
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30quid?? I paid 5.99 at vue on the opening day of the dylan film?? And I went and sat in one of posh seats too
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
30quid?? I paid 5.99 at vue on the opening day of the dylan film?? And I went and sat in one of posh seats too
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Yeah just short of that. I didn't know the prices and I was paying for my grandson as well. But once bitten twice shy, they won't catch me out again. We could have sat where we liked because the place was virtually empty.
 
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Just reading Eric Idle biography, him his wife, Jerry hall in a car driven by mick jagger going to Monaco F1. Where are we going to park the car? the place is packed, cordoned off and full of police. Mick pulls up outside the casino, "come on don't hang about we're here" and they all walk off, looking back they see a tow truck already positioning to have it away. Don't fret says mick it's a hire car we'll get another one later to go back to Ronnies.

yeah read that book. some very funny stories (if not embellished) . how many celebs did eric idle rub shoulders with? the names he mentions/drops in that book is mental.

He should have just made a list of celebrities, musicians, royalty and other rich people who he's met and is friends with. Strange book makes me think he's a bit insecure with himself.
 
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Just reading Eric Idle biography, him his wife, Jerry hall in a car driven by mick jagger going to Monaco F1. Where are we going to park the car? the place is packed, cordoned off and full of police. Mick pulls up outside the casino, "come on don't hang about we're here" and they all walk off, looking back they see a tow truck already positioning to have it away. Don't fret says mick it's a hire car we'll get another one later to go back to Ronnies.

yeah read that book. some very funny stories (if not embellished) . how many celebs did eric idle rub shoulders with? the names he mentions/drops in that book is mental.

He should have just made a list of celebrities, musicians, royalty and other rich people who he's met and is friends with. Strange book makes me think he's a bit insecure with himself.
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