Election 2024

History lesson for you

In 1892, American Christian minister Francis Bellamy wrote the US Pledge of Allegiance to boost patriotism.

As the pledge quickly became popular, a magazine called the Youth Companion, where Bellamy worked, decided to create a salute to go with the words.

Named the Bellamy salute, it consisted of a straight right arm angled slightly upward and a faced-down palm.

The salute continued to be used across the US with no controversy until World War II when the US entered the war against the axis powers, including Germany and Italy.

With discomfort growing in the US that the Bellamy salute could be misinterpreted as pledging allegiance to Hitler and Mussolini, the US Congress amended the Flag Code in December 1942, changing the salute to placing a right hand over the heart.

 

Your last paragraph, I was actually thinking to myself, is that what the nazis did, put their hand on their heart/chest, because I don't remember them doing that, maybe they did, but interesting your account of history.

 

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He has got America in a spin for sure below three interpretations of him

Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a professor of history and fascism at New York University, wrote on X that the gesture was a “Nazi salute – and a very belligerent one too”.

But the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which tracks anti-Semitism, disagreed with claims that Musk had performed a Nazi salute and instead said the tech mogul had made an “awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm”.

Aaron Astor, a history professor at Maryville College in Tennessee, supported the ADL’s position and said on X that it was “not a Nazi salute”.

“This is a socially awkward autistic man’s wave to the crowd where he says ‘my heart goes out to you,'” he added.

 

If i remember right the hand (palm down) was swung across the chest to toutch the heart then straight out at head level (never above) and held there.

What Musk did had no resemblance at all other than the fact he only used one arm.
Total ****ing hysterier about **** all.

 

If you ever want out of that **** hole mate there’s a job and home up here for you.

That cockney guy who moved up here with his Mum a few years back says it’s the best thing they’ve ever done.

 

****ing anti Jewish Nazi ALLEGEDLY

 

And all that happened cos of Khan? Even though he wasn’t mayor then? Yeah, righto…

 

I got plans for a few years down the line when kids hit a certain age but thanks mate.

 

3 terms

Stabbings and all crime up every year. For what now 12 years?

He's a fuking liability to this city

 

This is exactly how I seen it and said at the time. Then my comment about his mental health was mocked by these guys so I stepped away and left it alone.

 

Yeah, right. Bellamy salute

Which no ****, including Elon Musk, has ever heard of. But it was defo that, and not a Sieg Heil

 

A job? Don’t scare him ffs

 

I mightve earned more than you last year after tax tbh mate.

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It goes to prove the mind can see whatever you want it to see.

I got to admit I don't particularly like Musk, but I do like that it's opened a chat about certain things. I think Musk would irritate me in real life and I wouldn't be able to resist telling the stupid twat to put his fooking arm down.

It's like the Green thing and electric cars, it's an abominable idea in my logic, but I keep quiet and go along with it, because it's not my world anymore. But it does feel sometimes that you are not allowed to challenge these things, well not without being berated by someone.

So I'm glad of sorts that Trump has brought it out into the open.

It will make no difference though, because Brussels will be as stubborn as ever, and just push the same cart along. It's one of the things I actually can't forgive Boris for, I know crazy all the things he done, but pushing through these electric cars was about as bit **** crazy as his hair.

 

Electric cars are a very expensive **** up and the world should have gone for hydrogen fuel cells (they will in the end).
There is not and never will be enough room (not points) to charge EVs in most countries.
Justy take England, forget people with drives (although multi car familys may struggle) just think about the amount of people now living in high rise appartments (flats) or on terrace streets.
Then think of sittiing outside a motoirway service station having a brew and a sandwhich, just watch how many cars pull onto the fuel station, spend 10 mins filling up and paying then go. Now imagine the same number of cars pulling in to re-charge, it will take much longer and the queues will just keep growing.

 

Just swerved a Sadiq of the norf.