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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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Apparently the Japanese PM Shinzo Abe was brilliant at manipulating Trump. According to reports he knew he could distract Trump by talking about golf and other pointless things and Trump would just go on about it.

bit like me, throw in bikes and some food chat.
 
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Apparently the Japanese PM Shinzo Abe was brilliant at manipulating Trump. According to reports he knew he could distract Trump by talking about golf and other pointless things and Trump would just go on about it.

If that's how you need to handle him, that's what you do. Like I said with the Panama Canal, just say he's right and chuck him a few concessions and he'll shut the **** up about it.
 
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Can't blame Biden for that. Leaders all around the world sat on their hands and did nothing. I doubt Trump would have been any better had it happened on his watch. American leaders in general have a long history of ignoring Israeli atrocities.

And had Biden done anything there would be calls about America meddling in other countries again.

Trump would have done exactly the same thing, he was quite open in saying that Israel had the right to 'defend' themselves, like every other western leader, which equated to 'you can ****ing level the place'

Netanyahu is the person responsible here though. And whilst he was enabled, it is him who should face war crimes charges.
 
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And, let's not forget, all the Nazi salutes at the swearing in... today is almost like a parody of itself.


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Trump would have done exactly the same thing, he was quite open in saying that Israel had the right to 'defend' themselves, like every other western leader, which equated to 'you can ****ing level the place'

Netanyahu is the person responsible here though. And whilst he was enabled, it is him who should face war crimes charges.

October 7th would never have happened on Trump's watch, and the only reason the war has stopped now is because of Trump coming to power.

I know people like to deflect from and protect Biden, but history will show it happened on his watch as world peace leader.
 
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October 7th would never have happened on Trump's watch, and the only reason the war has stopped now is because of Trump coming to power.

I know people like to deflect from and protect Biden, but history will show it happened on his watch as world peace leader.

How ?
 
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Yeah, a ‘president’ who has been found guilty of sexual assault and released a crypto coin is just the sort of stable genius we need.
Many of our politicians have the same or worse to be fair mate
 

because like now, they would have known to attack would have had consequences. Biden is often indecisive and it comes across to some as weak. And let's be honest here, since Trumps shenanigans when he last left power, they came across to the world as a bunch of clowns, Biden did nothing to reassure people differently, even in Ukraine we fell short of what was really needed to protect Ukranians lives through fear of Putin....again someone Trump can handle....we hope lol
 
because like now, they would have known to attack would have had consequences. Biden is often indecisive and it comes across to some as weak. And let's be honest here, since Trumps shenanigans when he last left power, they came across to the world as a bunch of clowns, Biden did nothing to reassure people differently, even in Ukraine we fell short of what was really needed to protect Ukranians lives through fear of Putin....again someone Trump can handle....we hope lol

Gaza has suffered immeasurable consequences as a result of the Oct7th attacks. Biden wasn't indecisive, he came out unequivocally in support of Israel.

Under Trump, he would have given Israel the same green light that Biden did. The only area that Biden was weak in was not reigning in Israel with their unrelenting attacks on civilians.

I think Hamas were planning that attack for around 2 years, I'm not sure they were making any of those calculations based on who was the sitting US president.
 
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Gaza has suffered immeasurable consequences as a result of the Oct7th attacks. Biden wasn't indecisive, he came out unequivocally in support of Israel.

Under Trump, he would have given Israel the same green light that Biden did. The only area that Biden was weak in was not reigning in Israel with their unrelenting attacks on civilians.

I think Hamas were planning that attack for around 2 years, I'm not sure they were making any of those calculations based on who was the sitting US president.

You come across to me as though you are always happy to attach blame to those you hate, so Trump for example and he wasn't even in power then, and protect those you like, ie Biden. Yet thousands of kids died and suiffered because of him, but somehow the same would have happened under Trump, so it makes a nice excuse and all ok. Ttbph, you're a fooking joke.
 
because like now, they would have known to attack would have had consequences. Biden is often indecisive and it comes across to some as weak. And let's be honest here, since Trumps shenanigans when he last left power, they came across to the world as a bunch of clowns, Biden did nothing to reassure people differently, even in Ukraine we fell short of what was really needed to protect Ukranians lives through fear of Putin....again someone Trump can handle....we hope lol

Do you really feel like Trump is more likely to stand up against Putin? Has he ever done that in the past? He's always kowtowed to Putin and make excuses for Putin. Trump is less likely to help Europe against any future Putin aggressions.

It's not like the world was more stable when Trump was in power and everyone was afraid to fight: Civil war in Syria. Civil war in Yemen. America lost it's grip in Afghanistan and had to begin plans to pull out. Genocide in Myanmar. Conflict in Sedan, fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Civil war in Libya.

Plenty of fighting happened around the world when Trump was in power and he didn't come protect anyone. Hamas didn't attack Israel because they thought they were stronger than Israel or the world would support them. Hamas probably couldn't give two figs about US, whether Trump or Biden is in power. They see themselves as fighting for liberty with a holy blessing.
 
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Do you really feel like Trump is more likely to stand up against Putin? Has he ever done that in the past? He's always kowtowed to Putin and make excuses for Putin. Trump is less likely to help Europe against any future Putin aggressions.

It's not like the world was more stable when Trump was in power and everyone was afraid to fight: Civil war in Syria. Civil war in Yemen. America lost it's grip in Afghanistan and had to begin plans to pull out. Genocide in Myanmar. Conflict in Sedan, fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Civil war in Libya.

Plenty of fighting happened around the world when Trump was in power and he didn't come protect anyone. Hamas didn't attack Israel because they thought they were stronger than Israel or the world would support them. Hamas probably couldn't give two figs about US, whether Trump or Biden is in power. They see themselves as fighting for liberty with a holy blessing.

Truthfully, I've no idea what Trump will do. I just love watching people making excuses for Genocide Joe.
 
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You come across to me as though you are always happy to attach blame to those you hate, so Trump for example and he wasn't even in power then, and protect those you like, ie Biden. Yet thousands of kids died and suiffered because of him, but somehow the same would have happened under Trump, tbph, you're a fooking joke.

Where am I defending Biden ffs ? I've just said he gave unequivocal support for Israel and was weak in not reigning them in when they were pummelling innocent civilians

You comes across to me like you don't ****ing read what's been written.
 
Where am I defending Biden ffs ? I've just said he gave unequivocal support for Israel and was weak in not reigning them in when they were pummelling innocent civilians

You comes across to me like you don't ****ing read what's been written.

You are defending Biden, excuses are defending. I've always supported Israel, i've never ever defended what Netty has done though, it's two extremes that conflict...for which I don't have the answer, but the outcome is still there for history to see.
 
Do you really feel like Trump is more likely to stand up against Putin? Has he ever done that in the past? He's always kowtowed to Putin and make excuses for Putin. Trump is less likely to help Europe against any future Putin aggressions.

It's not like the world was more stable when Trump was in power and everyone was afraid to fight: Civil war in Syria. Civil war in Yemen. America lost it's grip in Afghanistan and had to begin plans to pull out. Genocide in Myanmar. Conflict in Sedan, fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Civil war in Libya.

Plenty of fighting happened around the world when Trump was in power and he didn't come protect anyone. Hamas didn't attack Israel because they thought they were stronger than Israel or the world would support them. Hamas probably couldn't give two figs about US, whether Trump or Biden is in power. They see themselves as fighting for liberty with a holy blessing.

Exactly this. Trump has been arse licking Putin since they first met. If he could, he'd probably model himself on the same dictatorial lines as Putin does. He's done nothing to stand up to Putin as you say, and his stance on Europe is 'it's your problem' How anybody can think that he can handle him is a joke, Putin can play Trump like a ****ing fiddle.
 
You are defending Biden, excuses are defending. I've always supported Israel, i've never ever defended what Netty has done though, it's two extremes that conflict...for which I don't have the answer, but the outcome is still there for history to see.

You either don't know what you're talking about or you simply cannot ****ing read.
 
You either don't know what you're talking about or you simply cannot ****ing read.

I'm happy with that, you just keep making excuses for Genocide Joe mate, and you pretended you cared about the kids, like I said you're a fooking joker. Peace loving hippy my arse, more like a two faced ****.
 
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ffs man <laugh>

brb has got his narrative and he's sticking to it

Biden gave the green light for Israel to pummel Gaza, and did nothing to reign them in.

How the **** that is seen as making excuses for him is just nonsense.
 
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I'm happy with that, you just keep making excuses for Genocide Joe mate, and you pretended you cared about the kids, like I said you're a fooking joker. Peace loving hippy my arse, more like a two faced ****.

You talk a lot of ****ing **** mate.

It's that simple.