hull city under acun

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Jim the Tiger said:
To be fair there are decent assets in the squad in terms of sellable value. Its also posting 20k crowds and is in the second tier. Finding a buyer wouldn't be hard as long as he isn't wanting a silly price.
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My concern is that there isn’t a Lewis-Potter or Greaves or Philogene-type asset to balanace our finances next summer. We’ve got some decent players but nobody we could realistically demand £15-20 million for. That’s a huge issue because the last two summer transfer windows have only been possible due to the sales of Lewis-Potter, Greaves and Philogene. Without that big sale, we will struggle financially and even run the risk of making losses that go over the threshold of FFP’s acceptable losses.
 
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Kalman II said:
My concern is that there isn’t a Lewis-Potter or Greaves or Philogene-type asset to balanace our finances next summer. We’ve got some decent players but nobody we could realistically demand £15-20 million for. That’s a huge issue because the last two summer transfer windows have only been possible due to the sales of Lewis-Potter, Greaves and Philogene. Without that big sale, we will struggle financially and even run the risk of making losses that go over the threshold of FFP’s acceptable losses.
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That's just a guess on your part. No point getting working up over a total guess.
 
Kalman II said:
My concern is that there isn’t a Lewis-Potter or Greaves or Philogene-type asset to balanace our finances next summer. We’ve got some decent players but nobody we could realistically demand £15-20 million for. That’s a huge issue because the last two summer transfer windows have only been possible due to the sales of Lewis-Potter, Greaves and Philogene. Without that big sale, we will struggle financially and even run the risk of making losses that go over the threshold of FFP’s acceptable losses.
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We won't need a complete rebuild next summer though will we?

I guess some will leave but not so many right?
 
Howdentiger2 said:
A bit like you yesterday when it was reported that we might play 2 up top and you just "guessed" it was due to Acun interfering and influencing the team selection......
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Calm down. I've already politely explained to you once exactly why that would've been my concern if that had happened. It didn't happen anyway.

You seem to be always looking for the next 'gotcha' when certain posters post, and it's always based on very flimsy logic like this.
 
PLT said:
Calm down. I've already politely explained to you once exactly why that would've been my concern if that had happened. It didn't happen anyway.

You seem to be always looking for the next 'gotcha' when certain posters post, and it's always based on very flimsy logic like this.
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I'm perfectly calm :)

Definitely not looking for a "gotcha" moment, but when something is as funny and obvious as what you did. You've just got to laugh at the hypocrisy
 
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Would I rather have Acun then the Allams, absofknlutely, does he need to start learning from his mistakes, again absofknlutely. The guy has passion and wants to succeed, alas he seems to have seriously underestimated the Championship, not sure what the score is with Tan, but he needs a proper chairman in to look after his interests and someone with solid knowledge of what's needed at this level. As for calls for Andy Dawson to be put in interim charge, if he was any good he'd have been promoted already to the job following his stints as caretaker, legend as a player but coach ? Nah.
For me, this needs a major rethink on behalf of Acun, perhaps his interests abroad at Fenerbahçe have made him take his eye off the ball, but if he is serious about achieving success here he needs to have a good hard look at the mistakes he has made, have a bit of humility, and allow someone to take the reins who knows how it works, he would still take the plaudits.
 
TIGERSCAVE said:
Andy Dawson is part of the team FFS.... he above all others should be instilling what it means... if he goes, as I said last night Meyler would be the best interim choice...
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A subordinate can object to a plan, and highlight why it's not working, but they're ultimately not responsible for the direction being taken.
 
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Kalman II said:
My concern is that there isn’t a Lewis-Potter or Greaves or Philogene-type asset to balanace our finances next summer. We’ve got some decent players but nobody we could realistically demand £15-20 million for. That’s a huge issue because the last two summer transfer windows have only been possible due to the sales of Lewis-Potter, Greaves and Philogene. Without that big sale, we will struggle financially and even run the risk of making losses that go over the threshold of FFP’s acceptable losses.
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I think Hughes and Balloumi probably balance the books somewhat.

I don’t think unless there’s a late resurgence that teams are going to come knocking just yet anyway and we get a more settled squad next year hopefully
 
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One problem we have is that if the valuable players are not performing, we won't be able to balance the books - their selling price will always be better in a winning team that's not shipping goals. TBH we aren't shipping goals anyway yet, just letting in the odd one when we need to be scoring more.
 
I hope Acun can see past his own ego when starting to look for a new manager.

When the Allams wanted a manager to get them promoted they asked around and was told Bruce would be the best you can attract with a track record of promotion, its sometimes that simple. I always feel that Acun wants it to be about him rather than what the club needs. Shota, Rosie, Walter, all never given a chance before in England so he'd get instant praise if it worked out, like he saw something no one else could see.

Im slowly liking Acun less and less with every decision he makes. It's almost like he's covered up all the crap decisions with kind gestures. Dont get me wrong he's extremely generous, but id prefer it if he made better decisions and cut back on the generosity. If he honestly believes what he says, that he wants whats best for the club, then hire a new proven DOF with experience in this country to help guide him, if not I can only see this going one way and thats a gradual backlash from the fans and him selling the club.
 
HCAFCHangout said:
I think Hughes and Balloumi probably balance the books somewhat.

I don’t think unless there’s a late resurgence that teams are going to come knocking just yet anyway and we get a more settled squad next year hopefully
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What we've seen from Hughes so far reminds me of Jacob Greaves from a couple of years ago. Great potential but nowhere near ready for a move to the Premier League. He's shown some great examples of positioning, tackling and passing but has also made some pretty costly mistakes. He may become good enough for a move to the top flight but that's at least 2 years off at the moment.
 
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Ernie Shackleton said:
What we've seen from Hughes so far reminds me of Jacob Greaves from a couple of years ago. Great potential but nowhere near ready for a move to the Premier League. He's shown some great examples of positioning, tackling and passing but has also made some pretty costly mistakes. He may become good enough for a move to the top right but that's at least 2 years off at the moment.
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I don’t disagree. I said to the bloke next to me last night I think he’s got some better qualities than an early greaves in his physicality in duels and some of his longer range passing is very good but he’s not the finished article yet. Hopefully, like I say a down year means we get to retain players like him and maybe kick on with a competent manager.
 
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Ernie Shackleton said:
What we've seen from Hughes so far reminds me of Jacob Greaves from a couple of years ago. Great potential but nowhere near ready for a move to the Premier League. He's shown some great examples of positioning, tackling and passing but has also made some pretty costly mistakes. He may become good enough for a move to the top right but that's at least 2 years off at the moment.
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Agree but I think unless something goes wrong Hughes can be better than Greaves. He can already pass, tackle, head, read the game and run with the ball but he has that extra bit of physicality that I felt Greaves didn't.
 
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HCAFCHangout said:
I don’t disagree. I said to the bloke next to me last night I think he’s got some better qualities than an early greaves in his physicality in duels and some of his longer range passing is very good but he’s not the finished article yet. Hopefully, like I say a down year means we get to retain players like him and maybe kick on with a competent manager.
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Is there an echo in here? :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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I wonder if Tan's departure has had repercussions further downstream than just the board. Our latest drop in form coincides more or less with him going, was he involved much on a day to day basis at player or manager level? I don't know.
 
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