Match Day Thread Liverpool v Chelsea

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Sauerkraut Inia said:
Yeah totally get hat
But yesterdays, my gut and eyes thought they defo went early
Will never know
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Correct.
The system could be open to corruption by moving the action forward or backward a little. But I believe it's the technician rather than the VAR ref who selects the point of impact, and it was the technician who questioned the decision in the Diaz debacle last season.
I've said all along though, that I don't think the technology is precise enough for the tasks demanded of it.
 
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saintanton said:
Correct.
The system could be open to corruption by moving the action forward or backward a little. But I believe it's the technician rather than the VAR ref who selects the point of impact, and it was the technician who questioned the decision in the Diaz debacle last season.
I've said all along though, that I don't think the technology is precise enough for the tasks demanded of it.
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I don’t believe they can’t do be honest
The stuff they can slow down today is unreal

in rugby league when they are reviewing they roll it backwards and forwards

for me again this point of the ref team being mic ed up so we can hear the discussion

so we know what they are seeing - even if we don’t agree it’s transparent

I for one can take a bad decision as long as the argument isn’t - because I said so

but that’s sort of another issue
 
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saintanton said:
Correct.
The system could be open to corruption by moving the action forward or backward a little. But I believe it's the technician rather than the VAR ref who selects the point of impact, and it was the technician who questioned the decision in the Diaz debacle last season.
I've said all along though, that I don't think the technology is precise enough for the tasks demanded of it.
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It's always more difficult when it's really tight and that's when I think some guesswork comes into it.
 
In the end human linespeople flag instantly and we get on with it.

60k people don't stand about for 2 minutes wondering what is going on.

Var kills atmosphere.
 
Sauerkraut Inia said:
I don’t believe they can’t do be honest
The stuff they can slow down today is unreal

in rugby league when they are reviewing they roll it backwards and forwards

for me again this point of the ref team being mic ed up so we can hear the discussion

so we know what they are seeing - even if we don’t agree it’s transparent

I for one can take a bad decision as long as the argument isn’t - because I said so

but that’s sort of another issue
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my main gripe is when they send the ref to the monitor they just show him the view that supports the Var officials position and if there is another view that even leans towards a different conclusion he never gets to see oit .
 
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Gerrardsitchyear said:
I agree with this totally. I'd get rid purley because it destroys the joy of celebrating goals.
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plus since so many of the decisions are subjective it's not like it has stopped the moans about decisions but with the added "despite looking at it for 5 mins in slow motion from every possible the useless ****ers still can't get it right" addition <laugh>
 
johnsonsbaby said:
I didn't see the replay or VAR check of their goal so went looking on YouTube. It's a very tight call. Because I'm sceptical of VAR in general, I'm not convinced that the line was drawn at the moment the ball was released. But that's just my cynicism.
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That’s not how offside works. It’s the moment the ball is touched not released. Obviously normally thats within same split second.

But some Swedish coach highlighted how coukd exploit it. If you scoop the ball into the foot and hold it with guy onside they could technically run offside while it’s still on persons foot and then can flick it through and they are technically onside.

If you want to read it better way

https://amp.theguardian.com/footbal...ct-ifab-after-finding-loophole-in-offside-law
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
That’s not how offside works. It's the moment the ball is touched not released. Obviously normally thats within same split second.

But some Swedish coach highlighted how coukd exploit it. If you scoop the ball into the foot and hold it with guy onside they could technically run offside while it’s still on persons foot and then can flick it through and they are technically onside.

If you want to read it better way

https://amp.theguardian.com/footbal...ct-ifab-after-finding-loophole-in-offside-law
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That's not stictly true. The offside law says "... at the moment the ball is played or touched".

The Swedish thing is interesting and shows up the ambiguity of the wording of the Law but we know in practice that it's the moment the ball is played.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
That's not stictly true. The offside law says "... at the moment the ball is played or touched".

The Swedish thing is interesting and shows up the ambiguity of the wording of the Law but we know in practice that it's the moment the ball is played.
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I personally haven’t bothered to read the rule book to confirm so if this is wrong fair enough.

but below in the article says below which specifically indicated it the first point of contact. Either way, it again goes back to point I’ve made 1000 times since var that someone being an inch offside at moment ball leaves the foot but onside moment contact is made makes no difference to actually gaining an advantage, and if we’re using var for offsides they need to re-write the offside rule to get it back to what it was actually brought in for.

The law states that a decision on whether a player is offside or not is taken at the “first point of contact” of the pass leading to the player, not when the ball leaves the foot of the passer.
 
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