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yet we are screwed even more now that the Idiot Starmer has just signed an agreement to let in 521 million pounds worth of unskilled migrants over 8 years and we pay by our tax, he didnt even consult us voters remorse is rife now

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Good God man, I like to try and be polite but what a pile of ****e. £521m migrants coming here :emoticon-0140-rofl:
 
It say 521 millon pounds worth of unskilled migrants what a pile of ****e response read it
I did. Why do you keep changing subject? Brexit, £22m black hole, immigration, you just keep evading any substantive point made and move on to the next Daily Mail headline.
 
I did. Why do you keep changing subject? Brexit, £22m black hole, immigration, you just keep evading any substantive point made and move on to the next Daily Mail headline.
It was you who evaded, you replied but failed to mention the point raised on the black hole, A point which Starmer has done consistently even the treasury won't back him and cannot find 22 billion ,You consistently fail to answer about the black hole We both know MSM lies, and the truth is somewhere in between, However in his 100 days Starmer and his 40 thieves, have proven to be as big weasels as the Tories, I'm surprised you don't or can't see it, They are all as bad as each other, all i want is some fekker to care for Britain without lining their own pockets
 
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It was you who evaded you, replied but failed to mention the point raised on the black hole, A point which Starmer has done consistently even the treasury won't back him and cannot find 22 billion ,You consistently fail to answer about the black hole We both know MSM lies, and the truth is somewhere in between, However in his 100 days Starmer and his 40 thieves, have proven to be as big weasels as the Tories, I'm surprised you don't or can't see it, They are all as bad as each other, all i want is some fekker to care for Britain without lining their own pockets
I've evaded myself, takes some doing that mind. I'll leave you with your thoughts although if you go back over what I've said I don't think we're too far apart.
 
You're making the assumption that those people were qualified to vote on the subject. The blame (in my opinion) goes to Cameron for even putting it to the vote without proper research and information. The brexit vote was basically a vote for racism from the idiots and the Silver Surfers who believe in British Rail, the pound note and hate all this "lefty wokeism" that has spoiled Great Britain
You must hate living amongst the racist/silver surfers of the north East, the majority of which voted to leave the unelected European Union.

https://www.electoralcommission.org...endum/eu-referendum-results-region-north-east
 
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I wouldnt blame Cameron for calling the referendum personally. Maybe for being weak and blase in the stay vote, as many were. But my recall was there was a major groundswell of demand for the referendum. It was from a range of groups of society too. I remember the CBI saying the relationship with the EU was problematic and needed altering. Things like bail outs were fresh in folks memory. The naivety everyone had was to assume the other 26 EU members would allow our departure to work in our favour. I think we handled our attempt to reset relationships badly, and our exit negotiations even more badly. Setting the clock ticking, creating red lines, such poor negotiation tactics. Funnily enough had Cameron not quit after losing the vote he was far more likely to have negotiated a better exit than May or Johnson could. I think his credibility around the EU table was greater than both.
Good post and I agree with everything except your first sentence. I thought Cameron was under pressure from the looney right to offer them a referendum, just to shut them up. He incorrectly believed it would fail... then ran away. Fool. As you say, he would probably have done a better job of negotiating.
 
Good post and I agree with everything except your first sentence. I thought Cameron was under pressure from the looney right to offer them a referendum, just to shut them up. He incorrectly believed it would fail... then ran away. Fool. As you say, he would probably have done a better job of negotiating.
Agree with this...except to add the words..treasonous,incompetent and cowardly..., before your 4th sentence.
And,as if this dereliction of duty wasn't enough, this is followed by the Conservative party finally betraying the British people,by electing a succession of very weak,totally unsuitable leaders for the tasks at hand,and why I,after voting Conservative all my life,will never vote for them again.
 
Good post and I agree with everything except your first sentence. I thought Cameron was under pressure from the looney right to offer them a referendum, just to shut them up. He incorrectly believed it would fail... then ran away. Fool. As you say, he would probably have done a better job of negotiating.
He definitely was mate. And he gambled his election win on the promise. There was so many more groups wanted out of the EU than the right wing tories though. UKIP was a major problem at the time, and they werent a conservative party as I understood them. Businesses, famers, fishermen, all seemed to be queueing up for the exit doors. Whatever his motivations, it was a depressingly selfish decision to quit as PM at the hour of need.
 

I quite liked this post, but have to take issue with the final paragraph.
You make it sound as if BREXIT was a Tory Policy with onlyTory support.
Not so by any means.

If you take Sunderland as an example, while our three MP's voted against it, a sizable majority of the population voted FOR BREXIT.
But they voted in similar numbers FOR Labour at subsequent elections.

Why can those who opposed BREXIT not accept the FACT that a large majority of the population voted for it, not on Party Lines, but on what they believed was right.

One of our MP's banged on for some time after the Referendum, asking for, what she called, A PEOPLES VOTE.
The Referendum was just that.
Nothing to do with Party Lines, just peoples honest collective opinion.

You're right, historically there been plenty of arguments from all sides for leaving the European Union every step of the way.

I remember Tony Benn's speech after the Maastricht Treaty warning EU representatives would be much harder to get rid of than UK politicians.

But...

To me, Brexit was an opportunity for a group of people to use historic distrust of the EU to destabilise Europe (Russia the obvious one), provide a way for billionaires to hide their identity via shell companies (despite recent legislation, two thirds of them are still anonymous), and unscrupulous Tories to further their career (Alreet Boris).

Tens of millions of people voted for Brexit, and I won't blame anyone who did, but I'd argue it was one of the most dishonest campaigns in UK history.

UKIP not only insisted that we'd all be richer, but that the NHS would be £350m a week better off. Also that we'd get control of our borders so we could turn away immigrants.

None of that has happened.
 
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You're right, historically there been plenty of arguments from all sides for leaving the European Union every step of the way.

I remember Tony Benn's speech after the Maastricht Treaty warning EU representatives would be much harder to get rid of than UK politicians.

But...

To me, Brexit was an opportunity for a group of people to use historic distrust of the EU to destabilise Europe (Russia the obvious one), provide a way for billionaires to hide their identity via shell companies (despite recent legislation, two thirds of them are still anonymous), and unscrupulous Tories to further their career (Alreet Boris).

Tens of millions of people voted for Brexit, and I won't blame anyone who did, but I'd argue it was one of the most dishonest campaigns in UK history.

UKIP not only insisted that we'd all be richer, but that the NHS would be £350m a week better off. Also that we'd get control of our borders so we could turn away immigrants.

None of that has happened.
Don’t forget houses we’re going to plummet to half there value if the vote was leave, funny, mines gone up over 200% since then.
Or am I the only one?
 
Don’t forget houses we’re going to plummet to half there value if the vote was leave, funny, mines gone up over 200% since then.
Or am I the only one?
Aye, and many jobs would be at risk. Mine is, big time. There are many downsides of being outside the EU in my opinion and they are having an impact directly on me. Not that it is all about me of course, but just for balance I am quite a bit worse off.
 
Aye, and many jobs would be at risk. Mine is, big time. There are many downsides of being outside the EU in my opinion and they are having an impact directly on me. Not that it is all about me of course, but just for balance I am quite a bit worse off.
I’m not sure that’s the reason you are worse off, I would think it’s down to the tossers who negotiated the leaving deal.
 
I’m not sure that’s the reason you are worse off, I would think it’s down to the tossers who negotiated the leaving deal.
Probably. Just cant imagine anyone negotiating a good deal. Hey ho, been and gone. If it wasnt Brexit it would be some other nonsense to give us a reason to whine or celebrate. Think I will go and listen to some Hendrix, always gets me up again.