Transfer Rumours The Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

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haslam said:
I believe this to be half true. Whilst disinclined to believe positive things about Newcastle you're very keen to believe the negatives, I think it's pretty clear what your response is going to be on most topics before I read it. Not meant as a slight, I think you're just fairly pessimistic but fall into the trap that people often do of thinking the opposite of optimistic is realistic - it's not.

You are very happy to ignore facts when they don't fit your narrative. As is pretty much everyone - myself included - at times, I at least know that I am though!

As for the Steve Bruce and Rafa comparisons I can only assume you don't use league positions or points totals to justify that as you don't seem keen on relying on such objective evidence.
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The numbers over those two seasons were virtually identical.
 
Darren Peacock’s Ponytail said:
I would argue that’s not the butterfly effect as you’ve already implied he said something fairly controversial which has then led us to all discussing it. Now if he was asked a question and he sneezed and that led us to discuss this matter then the butterfly effect would be the case.
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Welshie said:
This thread is ****ing crap

look at what people are chatting about
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Well...

The Butterfly Effect is a branch of Chaos Theory and evolved from one of my favourite stories of one of my favourite topics. Henri Poincare was trying to model the movement of 3 celestial bodies (following on from the work of Newton modelling 2) and thought he had succeeded so was having his working published in the name of the King of Sweden. It was then found to have some errors in his work and he had to pay to have the works recalled - which pretty much bankrupted him - as to publish incorrect work in the name of the King was a big no.

He then devoted years to trying to find out his errors and finally showed (not proven hence it's only a theory) that whilst two celestial bodies can be modelled perfectly once you try to show it with three then you cannot do it unless you know ALL the conditions (the environment on the planets, the size, shape, etc) not just of the planets but everything else that could affect them (so everything else in the universe). It's that minor changes in the starting condidtions lead to unpredictable wildly different outcomes with no pattern to the results.

Instead of giving up he published what became the foundations of Chaos Theory and won himself a host of acclaim. Snatching victory from the jaws of failures.
 
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Obi Wan said:
You've instigated most of it. <laugh><laugh>
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Actually no I merely gave my view which was shared by others on here and in the fanbase and unfortunately was challenged on secondary points of no relevance.

Anyway let's move on we've been going around in circles.

Any transfer news?
 
haslam said:
Well...

The Butterfly Effect is a branch of Chaos Theory and evolved from one of my favourite stories of one of my favourite topics. Henri Poincare was trying to model the movement of 3 celestial bodies (following on from the work of Newton modelling 2) and thought he had succeeded so was having his working published in the name of the King of Sweden. It was then found to have some errors in his work and he had to pay to have the works recalled - which pretty much bankrupted him - as to publish incorrect work in the name of the King was a big no.

He then devoted years to trying to find out his errors and finally showed (not proven hence it's only a theory) that whilst two celestial bodies can be modelled perfectly once you try to show it with three then you cannot do it unless you know ALL the conditions (the environment on the planets, the size, shape, etc) not just of the planets but everything else that could affect them (so everything else in the universe). It's that minor changes in the starting condidtions lead to unpredictable wildly different outcomes with no pattern to the results.

Instead of giving up he published what became the foundations of Chaos Theory and won himself a host of acclaim. Snatching victory from the jaws of failures.
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I only watched the movie ... Good movie.
 
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haslam said:
Well...

The Butterfly Effect is a branch of Chaos Theory and evolved from one of my favourite stories of one of my favourite topics. Henri Poincare was trying to model the movement of 3 celestial bodies (following on from the work of Newton modelling 2) and thought he had succeeded so was having his working published in the name of the King of Sweden. It was then found to have some errors in his work and he had to pay to have the works recalled - which pretty much bankrupted him - as to publish incorrect work in the name of the King was a big no.

He then devoted years to trying to find out his errors and finally showed (not proven hence it's only a theory) that whilst two celestial bodies can be modelled perfectly once you try to show it with three then you cannot do it unless you know ALL the conditions (the environment on the planets, the size, shape, etc) not just of the planets but everything else that could affect them (so everything else in the universe). It's that minor changes in the starting condidtions lead to unpredictable wildly different outcomes with no pattern to the results.

Instead of giving up he published what became the foundations of Chaos Theory and won himself a host of acclaim. Snatching victory from the jaws of failures.
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Chaos theory. You've basically just nailed it.
 
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haslam said:
Well...

The Butterfly Effect is a branch of Chaos Theory and evolved from one of my favourite stories of one of my favourite topics. Henri Poincare was trying to model the movement of 3 celestial bodies (following on from the work of Newton modelling 2) and thought he had succeeded so was having his working published in the name of the King of Sweden. It was then found to have some errors in his work and he had to pay to have the works recalled - which pretty much bankrupted him - as to publish incorrect work in the name of the King was a big no.

He then devoted years to trying to find out his errors and finally showed (not proven hence it's only a theory) that whilst two celestial bodies can be modelled perfectly once you try to show it with three then you cannot do it unless you know ALL the conditions (the environment on the planets, the size, shape, etc) not just of the planets but everything else that could affect them (so everything else in the universe). It's that minor changes in the starting condidtions lead to unpredictable wildly different outcomes with no pattern to the results.

Instead of giving up he published what became the foundations of Chaos Theory and won himself a host of acclaim. Snatching victory from the jaws of failures.
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Is it just a branch though? From my understanding it’s the founding concept of chaos theory. Though it’s a bit above above my station and I haven’t looked at since doing bird migration in 2000
 
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