Was it, yeah John McDonnell is often looking to stir it...sorry I mean to express his views lol.
I'm not sure lifting the child two benefit cap is the right idea anyway, surely it's better for it to be targeted? (to those in need I mean).
I honestly don't know enough about it to say one way or another.
The SNP brought it forward because they know it's awkward for Labour to vote against it I imagine.
I don't fully understand the system, so here's it explained in less than 4 mins...
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2 child cap keep it.
benefits cap, probably scrap this one.
Thanks for the explanation martin

I'm even more confused now Bobby...you sure you understood it.![]()
1. Child benefit pay you money every week for every child have. First child gives you a bit more
2. When the highest earner in your household earns 60k or more, then they claw back the child benefit in number 1 by taxing your income rather than you repaying it (you get less in your pay cheque). At 80k, you lose all of that and pay it all back
3. My understanding of this is that you get more benefits if you are not working/low income for your children that is bigger than the child benefit in point 1. However this additional child benefit is capped at 2 children. Anymore children you have is the amount in point 1, not the larger amount in this point (point 3).
4. There is also a cap of total benefits so actually, you may not even get the full child benefit entitlement if all your benefits exceeds this total.
I get it now, thanks brb.
As far as I'm understanding, this was a Kings Speech debate, it was actually the SNP offering an alternative to the Labour manifesto proposal. So it's meant to be a traditional formality and the parties are meant to just vote for the manifesto they have been elected under.
So these 7 MPs essentially just said the Labour manifesto is wrong and a SNP policy is better
Duggie will be pleased.
Sir Kier doing more for immigration than tories have in 14 years
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpe388jy2n3o
All that bollocks and incompetence from the stop the boats team
and Sir Keir gets it sorted straight away

Do you know how many migrants came into Dover on boats last week?
I'm guessing you don't... 1,500
https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2...ed-in-uk-after-week-of-crossings-figures-show
on the end of that comment, but I thought it was obviouswonder if they still do Milk tokensI did read something online several days ago that said something about food vouchers being given as additional help, as a workaround to the problem. Which all sounds well and good but my concern is it will be subject to fraud, because that's how these well intentioned efforts generally end up.
I expect Keir wants a costing first on various scenarios, who do we target, problem then solution.
wonder if they still do Milk tokens![]()