Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy

[Newland Tiger]

Cooplands sacked all the staff, a new bloke is trying to make a go of it and is not going to be helped by this ****e.

Yes I thought that was the case , Cooplands was taken over by the owners of Asda
and they also shut the factory in Hull

 

[DarbyDays]

Absolute rip off, rude staff and incompetent chef. The wife went last night with 25 workmates all precooked platters and complementary Prosecco expected. Each table of 6 received a piece of floor board with 4 different items of which there were 3 of each? When they asked if there had been a mistake the staff accused them of lying. Fortunately someone had taken photos of the food to warn people about the lack of it. Each platter was £40. Drinks were nearly £6 a pint and a cocktail was £12 plus if you went to the bar it was the same price but if the waitress brought it they added £3.50 service charge for walking 3 feet. Sounds like another pretentious venue that probably won’t last long. £500 bill plus extra drinks so maybe a grand blown on a crap night out.

Yeah, went there Thursday evening. Was not expecting much but they managed to do worse.
First glass of prosecco (not my drink ) was flat, replacement was warm.
Ordered some small dishes (a few on the menu not available) and some chips. Waitress came back a few minutes later to say they'd run out of chips!
Food very average or poor.
Bill came with a charge for a bottle of prosecco instead of a glass, barely an apology.
Most of all though, a lot of staff but they could only do one thing so if you wanted anything else they had to get someone else over, ... eventually.
Just a really poor execution of an idea.

 

[bradymk2]

Yeah, went there Thursday evening. Was not expecting much but they managed to do worse.
First glass of prosecco (not my drink ) was flat, replacement was warm.
Ordered some small dishes (a few on the menu not available) and some chips. Waitress came back a few minutes later to say they'd run out of chips!
Food very average or poor.
Bill came with a charge for a bottle of prosecco instead of a glass, barely an apology.
Most of all though, a lot of staff but they could only do one thing so if you wanted anything else they had to get someone else over, ... eventually.
Just a really poor execution of an idea.

Think itll last the year?

 

[rovertiger]

Yeah, went there Thursday evening. Was not expecting much but they managed to do worse.
First glass of prosecco (not my drink ) was flat, replacement was warm.
Ordered some small dishes (a few on the menu not available) and some chips. Waitress came back a few minutes later to say they'd run out of chips!
Food very average or poor.
Bill came with a charge for a bottle of prosecco instead of a glass, barely an apology.
Most of all though, a lot of staff but they could only do one thing so if you wanted anything else they had to get someone else over, ... eventually.
Just a really poor execution of an idea.

How the **** does a restaurant run out of spuds to make chips?

 

[springtiger]

Emergency Funding For Hulls Independents
We have recently seen a stir in the local news about the not-so-local business "Wendy's" receiving part funding of £200k as part of the levelling-up grants provided by the government via our local council.

While we appreciate that it is not all as black and white as the media suggests, it still seems an insult to the hardworking businesses around the local area. Whether they're franchised businesses or not, they're still backed by multi-million-pound companies.

The local independent businesses, some of which have struggled through the Covid pandemic and come out of the other side, and some who unfortunately did not make it, deserve recognition and better grant access.

If a pot of money exists that ultimately supports the expansion of global conglomerates, we believe it should be accessible to those struggling in the aftermath of the pandemic in a cost of living crisis. Preserving people's current lives to give them and their employees some security is not much to ask for. Independent businesses are the life and soul of this working-class city.

The people behind the businesses have to be everything from social media handlers, promoters, servers, photographers, accountants, chefs, bartenders, sound engineers, cleaners and everything else that comes with running DIY businesses.

There is no HR department or marketing team, and there are no specialists in filling out grant applications. We are multi-tasking, jack of all trades who have had to learn and learn fast in an ever-changing economy because that's the only way things get done.

We face ever-increasing energy costs, overheads, stock prices, rent, and VAT (charged at the same rate as huge companies). Now, we are asking for change. We propose an emergency fund for independent local businesses in the city, regardless of the postcode or centre proximity.

We suggest you look at those local businesses that have worked tirelessly for years to keep their doors open and their loyal staff in jobs. For example, reconsider how the levelling up grants are distributed and include existing struggling businesses. Consider the fact that many had no choice but to use Covid loans to pay off landlords or increased energy bills . There were also many small businesses in the UK that received little or no support at all, newly self employed and new business with no history for example. We also propose that the new government holds its promise to small firms, entrepreneurs, and the self-employed who face unique challenges by offering VAT relief to smaller companies, as they say, 'the lifeblood of communities and high streets across the country.

These businesses should be celebrated and promoted by the local council. Nobody visits Hull to sit in a big restaurant chain; you can get them anywhere.

What makes this city unique is its independent traders and culture. These are the spots where communities are born, and these are the places that should be protected. We have already seen many unique, hardworking independents close their doors.

We ask to preserve what we have left before it's too late.

On behalf of the independents of Hull

Click here to sign the letter. >>>> https://openletter.earth/emergency-...o9-4oG4YKM288_aem_E9EBShZWlQlr8OLKMckrvw&s=08

There’s a whole new set of independents now , have a look at the old Stanley’s Brasserie opposite Station Hotel , cracking graphics , warms your heart to see a classy looking restaurant turned into a kaleidoscope of colour !

 

[DarbyDays]

Think itll last the year?

Nope. Unless they get in a manager who knows what he's doing.

 

[Tigerglenn]

A grant of £750,000 has been awarded to Tokyo Industries (Yorkshire) Ltd, trading as Iron Lilies, bringing a new late-night bar and restaurant.

The funding is from monies awarded to Hull City Council in 2021 by the Department of Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (DLUHC).

Iron Lilies will occupy the former Virgin Megastore on Level 2 of Princes Quay Shopping Centre which has stood vacant for a decade.

The funding will also help to create 19 full-time equivalent jobs, as well as bringing back into use large, vacant floor space.

 

[BlackAndAmberGambler]

A grant of £750,000 has been awarded to Tokyo Industries (Yorkshire) Ltd, trading as Iron Lilies, bringing a new late-night bar and restaurant.

The funding is from monies awarded to Hull City Council in 2021 by the Department of Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (DLUHC).

Iron Lilies will occupy the former Virgin Megastore on Level 2 of Princes Quay Shopping Centre which has stood vacant for a decade.

The funding will also help to create 19 full-time equivalent jobs, as well as bringing back into use large, vacant floor space.

****ing joke that grant. It’ll be gone by Christmas hopefully.

 

[balkan tiger]

It would have made more sense on the ground floor, and grouped all the dining and entertainment things together. Going by the reviews it needs to improve quickly or it will soon be bust and that 750,000 will heve been wasted.

 

[bradymk2]

It would have made more sense on the ground floor, and grouped all the dining and entertainment things together. Going by the reviews it needs to improve quickly or it will soon be bust and that 750,000 will heve been wasted.

Id be very surprised if its here in one years time

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

Classic Hull mentality, the council support a business to regenerate a unit that’s been vacant for a decade and people can’t wait to put it down. The grant won’t come close to covering the overall cost so there’s been some significant external investment, plus it’s created 19 full time jobs, not to mention the contractors that worked on the renovation.

It’s a new venue and quite possible they’re having teething issues, I’ve also heard from others that they enjoyed their visit, so perhaps the posters on here just got unlucky.

I wish them well, and I’d like to see the council do more of these initiatives to bring life back to prominent buildings in the city.

 

[originalminority]

****ing joke that grant. It’ll be gone by Christmas hopefully.

Iron Lillies sounds like the same story as Hammonds of Hull, good idea and location, badly executed, very dissapointing, first impressions are critical. Hope it won't stop the investment of anyone else trying to have a go at bringing something new to our city centre.

 

[TwoWrights]

Classic Hull mentality, the council support a business to regenerate a unit that’s been vacant for a decade and people can’t wait to put it down. The grant won’t come close to covering the overall cost so there’s been some significant external investment, plus it’s created 19 full time jobs, not to mention the contractors that worked on the renovation.

It’s a new venue and quite possible they’re having teething issues, I’ve also heard from others that they enjoyed their visit, so perhaps the posters on here just got unlucky.

I wish them well, and I’d like to see the council do more of these initiatives to bring life back to prominent buildings in the city.

It's not a classic Hull mentality, it's the mentality of a few that shout louder than most. You'll struggle to find any place in the country that's different.


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

 

[dennisboothstash]

Classic Hull mentality, the council support a business to regenerate a unit that’s been vacant for a decade and people can’t wait to put it down. The grant won’t come close to covering the overall cost so there’s been some significant external investment, plus it’s created 19 full time jobs, not to mention the contractors that worked on the renovation.

It’s a new venue and quite possible they’re having teething issues, I’ve also heard from others that they enjoyed their visit, so perhaps the posters on here just got unlucky.

I wish them well, and I’d like to see the council do more of these initiatives to bring life back to prominent buildings in the city.

I know it’s all taxpayers money, but I do think the Council are getting a bit of a kicking unnecessarily (unless I’ve misunderstood things?)
I thought it was Govt ‘levelling up’ money nationally, that was basically administered through Councils. So the Govt set the rules on what companies were eligible and the Council abided by those rules?
If that’s the case, and many of the small independents that we would have all liked to have funded weren’t eligible anyway, what were they supposed to do…give the money back because they were unsure if the new businesses were going to be successful?

 

[Help!]

I know it’s all taxpayers money, but I do think the Council are getting a bit of a kicking unnecessarily (unless I’ve misunderstood things?)
I thought it was Govt ‘levelling up’ money nationally, that was basically administered through Councils. So the Govt set the rules on what companies were eligible and the Council abided by those rules?
If that’s the case, and many of the small independents that we would have all liked to have funded weren’t eligible anyway, what were they supposed to do…give the money back because they were unsure if the new businesses were going to be successful?

The other point that often gets missed is that some of the ‘big’ businesses that people think this money shouldn’t go to are in fact local companies with a franchise of those big businesses.

 

[balkan tiger]

For me it's just the lack of joined up thinking, I am aware that grant money will come with conditions attached, but we end up with oasises of new things and acres of bleakness between them. I thought prinny Quay was planning to turn the ground floor into entertainment, it could be accessed when the shopping is closed. Now they have open a restaurant on level 2 can you even get there at night? and how do they control the people wandering about?

 

[originalminority]

For me it's just the lack of joined up thinking, I am aware that grant money will come with conditions attached, but we end up with oasises of new things and acres of bleakness between them. I thought prinny Quay was planning to turn the ground floor into entertainment, it could be accessed when the shopping is closed. Now they have open a restaurant on level 2 can you even get there at night? and how do they control the people wandering about?

Vue cinema in Prinny Quay is easily accessible till late.

 

[dennisboothstash]

For me it's just the lack of joined up thinking, I am aware that grant money will come with conditions attached, but we end up with oasises of new things and acres of bleakness between them. I thought prinny Quay was planning to turn the ground floor into entertainment, it could be accessed when the shopping is closed. Now they have open a restaurant on level 2 can you even get there at night? and how do they control the people wandering about?

Thats a fair point.
I think ‘a bleak oasis of new things’ was the previous Govt’s vision of levelling up! but at least having eateries on the same floor of the building would make sense.

(I used to like ‘top deck’ of prinny quay when it was a collection of random hippy clothing, bars and t shirt makers!)

 

[dennisboothstash]

Vue cinema in Prinny Quay is easily accessible till late.

Where is Iron Lillies?
Same floor as Vue?

 

[originallambrettaman]

Where is Iron Lillies?
Same floor as Vue?

Ground floor, the old Virgin unit.