makes me want to go to islington station at 5pm. I'll be the white middle class girl, you can be the disabled trans representative
So obviously American gun crime sucks... but this is interesting. Anecdotally, I always felt like there was much more crime in the UK than US after living in both countries, but a lot less "Murder" - so I looked for statistics to check. US Murder by Gun per million people... 138 times that of the UK... Maybe that laugh is inappropriate- but good grief that's a sobering statistic. Overall Murder rate is ONLY 4 times the UK though when considering all methods. So UK is stabbing and bludgeoning to death a lot more people. The nasty business of Murder aside... Total Crimes per 1000 people: UK 109.96 US 41.29 UK has over 2.5 times the actual total crime rate per 1000 people. UK citizens more than twice as likely as US to be victims of assault. Drug statistics seem a little wonky... think they got something wrong here: US citizens more than twice as likely to use drugs than the UK... but UK citizens 328 times more drug offenses? (I don't believe that for a minute- they got data wrong there surely, thousands of people locked up for smoking pot in the US) Sentences for crimes slightly longer in the UK than the US. but more than 7 times as people per capita in jail in the US. That shows how low the arrest rate is in the UK if they have longer sentences, more crime, but a lot fewer people in jail. Too many people are committing crimes in the UK and not facing jail. AND that's going to feedback to more people committing crimes because they think they can get away with it. Or... UK crimes more likely to face fines than sentencing to jail. I suspect ASBOs might play a part here since US doesn't have them... you might get thrown in jail in the US for a few days for a crime you're fined for in the UK. Twice as many people committing suicide in the US (I'm sure access to guns impacts that) More embezzlement in the UK. (probably because banking is a bigger sector in the UK) https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/table
It's probably because if it's not a big crime, if you report anything to the police they might decide to kill/nick you. Heard many a horror story about U.S. police.
As I mentioned on the Burly thread been at the hospital most of the day - Watford General - Bushy is just a couple of miles away from here and the police helicopters, sirens etc have been manic ...
They've got the guy, he's been taken to hospital, so not sure what he's done to himself, no shots were fired by police. It appears he needed medical attention in a cemetary where he was found.
I've been telling you America is a ****hole for years, you need to listen for a change instead of writing war and peace thinking you know all the answers, dickhead.
Apparently his brother is inside for a murder he committed in 2018, ran 2 kids off a motorbike, after they damaged his car, killing one and injuring the other
There are some twats- but honestly, all my encounters with them have been pleasant- they've always been pleasant and helpful to me... even when I'm pulled over for speeding they've been pleasant... other than writing me a ****ing ticket... . (I'm white so that probably helps) The problem with the US police is, a lot of civilians are armed, so the police are trained to treat every civilian as possibly armed and dangerous. When you go around with that mentality problems occur.
Well, crime is one of the reasons I wouldn't go back to UK... I'd probably leave the US if I had the opportunity, it's certainly less than ideal- but I'd probably move to New Zealand or Australia. It's nice to be able to leave the lawnmower out front and not worry about it being nicked- or not having to lock the house at night... or my son sleeps during the day- I don't bother locking the door if I go out and he's asleep in the house. I wouldn't do any of that in the UK with the petty crime rates there. Murder is much higher here... but, I don't really feel a risk of that. Everyone loves me. I'm wonderfull and lovable.
Absolutely awful ... Sorry, and it may be my age, and the fact that I have 3 daughters, but I'd want the **** dead and the death penalty brought back for crimes like this ...
Not the same level but my Mrs has been following a story about a young lad, Jack, from Bristol, went out for the evening back in March, not been seen or heard of since, police absolutely ****ing useless, what's new, they've just raised enough money to get the fella that offered to help in the Madeline McGann case, he's already found a lead apparently. But imagine what that family are going through aswell.
It's difficult for you to guage the UK, because you only really have news outlets and social media to guage it by. Now the reality, in my 60 plus years living in the UK, I've never witnessed a stabbing or a shooting. I never see cops with guns except at airports or on the tv. Petty crime such as burglary is no where near as bad as it use to be, I put that down at a guess to ring doorbell cameras. No, I don't go out without locking my doors, but that's more just a sensible precaution, than fear of crime. I've never witnessed anyone carrying a machete. The most you are likely to encounter in the UK is road rage, the simple way of dealing with that is ignoring it and ensuring your doors are locked, don't engage in it, just go about your business and let them rage. Other than that it's going to be some pisshead late on a Friday night, but in my latter years I tend not to go out after dark, that way you see none of it and get dragged into none of it and the cops clear it all up by morning.
The thing I notice the most is the lack of crimes committed by drunk people on the way home from the pub. I don't know of people getting things stolen out of their garden here like there used to be in the UK... and our gate was thrown in the brook a couple of times back in England. I've not personally encountered any violent crime in either country (my brother got attacked in a park in England as a teenager, but got away). It's the little- mischief crimes and petty thefts (both of which I think is suspect by drunk people returning from pubs) that I notice as the main difference in day to day life from living in both countries. I don't feel the need to always lock everything (most cars autolock now- but lots of people don't ever bother locking their cars here)... I probably wouldn't feel so safe leaving everything unlocked all the time if I were living in a city though. In a small town though- no one is going to bother stealing anything from my shed or out of my car.
